Furncliff
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Ruger .... no regrets. Except the regrets of selling the first one 45 years ago.
Heritage Rough Rider 22
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C5rider
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Check out my thread here...
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=640428&highlight=Ruger+Vs+single+six
Pretty much sums it up for me.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=640428&highlight=Ruger+Vs+single+six
Pretty much sums it up for me.
DNS
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OK for the price and mine is very accurate. Its 22 only and it seems like issues come from running the magnum ammo from what i'very read.
Honestly i would save up and get the RUGER unless you can score a used Heritage for a hundred or so. They do make steel Heritage revolvers btw.
Honestly i would save up and get the RUGER unless you can score a used Heritage for a hundred or so. They do make steel Heritage revolvers btw.
Well to tell you the truth I don't want it so much because I want a single action, but because I want a cheap .22 to practice marksmanship with. If I'm going to save up I'd prefer to get a Ruger .22 auto, Buckmark, or maybe the Bersa.
Two more questions:
1. Whats the barrel/glue thing? Are the barrels screwed in and held from backing out with glue, much like Loc-tite is used to prevent a scope ring screw from backing out?
2. I've heard now from more than one person that the fixed sight model's sights don't match up with POI. Are the Rough Riders known for this?
Two more questions:
1. Whats the barrel/glue thing? Are the barrels screwed in and held from backing out with glue, much like Loc-tite is used to prevent a scope ring screw from backing out?
2. I've heard now from more than one person that the fixed sight model's sights don't match up with POI. Are the Rough Riders known for this?
arcticap
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I don't know about the glue, but that shouldn't be a problem if they do. It's an accepted method for preventing barrel movement where there's a critical tolerance. Epoxy or glue is also used to secure the threaded barrels to the frames of .44 black powder revolvers that absorb a lot more heat and recoil than these Rough Riders do.
About the sights, who would know what percentage of all that were ever made over the years that don't shoot close enough to POA for folks to complain about?
That's simply the risk that one takes when purchasing any fixed sight model, whether it's a revolver or semi-auto.
If it's a concern then only consider purchasing one that has an adjustable sight.
About the sights, who would know what percentage of all that were ever made over the years that don't shoot close enough to POA for folks to complain about?
That's simply the risk that one takes when purchasing any fixed sight model, whether it's a revolver or semi-auto.
If it's a concern then only consider purchasing one that has an adjustable sight.
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Hammerdown77
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I wouldn't worry too much about the barrel glue thing. If I'm not mistaken, Freedom Arms uses barrel glue on their guns that have an octagonal barrel fitted. And that's a $2k and up gun.
Of course, I could be mistaken
Of course, I could be mistaken
Heritage RR
I've had a Rough Rider, dual cylinder, fixed sights, for two years, and I love it. No matter what other guns I take to the range, I always bring it, and finish my session on the line with it. At short range, up to ten yards, it is surprisingly accurate. The fixed iron sights can be adjusted by careful bending, but i have not needed to.
I have never used the .22 mag cylinder, so no comments on that.
When I was shopping for a basic .22lr revolver, I looked at the ~$200 RR, ~$400 Single Six, and ~$600 S&W. My choice was buy now and shoot rather than save for another year or two for the higher end gun. I am not at all disappointed with that decision.
I have shot a friend's Single Six, and acknowledge that it does seem overall a better made and more sturdy firearm than the RR. But, we all decide on cost and time trade offs. Along the same lines, I bought and drive a Toyota, deciding not to save up for a Lexus.
I've had a Rough Rider, dual cylinder, fixed sights, for two years, and I love it. No matter what other guns I take to the range, I always bring it, and finish my session on the line with it. At short range, up to ten yards, it is surprisingly accurate. The fixed iron sights can be adjusted by careful bending, but i have not needed to.
I have never used the .22 mag cylinder, so no comments on that.
When I was shopping for a basic .22lr revolver, I looked at the ~$200 RR, ~$400 Single Six, and ~$600 S&W. My choice was buy now and shoot rather than save for another year or two for the higher end gun. I am not at all disappointed with that decision.
I have shot a friend's Single Six, and acknowledge that it does seem overall a better made and more sturdy firearm than the RR. But, we all decide on cost and time trade offs. Along the same lines, I bought and drive a Toyota, deciding not to save up for a Lexus.
22-rimfire
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One of the things I have always paid attention to is "wealth building". Buying a RR is not a way to affect much positive change. But I agree with Craig VA in that from a pure shooting and sport point of view, better to buy something less expensive that works than wait for the weather to change or whatever and get the better and more expensive gun. But eventually, I would almost always buy the higher quality gun and ditch the cheapie.
bikerdoc
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Mine is fun and used to plink and train newbies, I have more expensive but I could get by with it in a pinch.
DaisyCutter
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I've had bad luck with cast zinc alloys in $4.99 Megamart cap guns. I reckon I wouldn't try it in a true firearm.
Yarddog
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Mine is fixed sights, Shoots left of POA. Not too shabby for $139 NIB & mag too boot ; )
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Gaucho Gringo
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I have had mine for about 6 years now and I love it. It has shot everything I load the cylinder with and not one FTF. Have shot shorts, longs, long rifles, shotshell and magnum .22's with no problems, in the Heritage. I have had a Ruger in the past that I bought new and cosmetically the Ruger is better fitted than the Heritage. But as far as function the Heritage seems to be as good as the Ruger. Neither one seems to have an edge over the other one as far as accuracy. I can buy a new Heritage locally for $160.00 vs $410.00 for the Ruger at the same shop. For what I use a .22 revolver for I can not justify paying $250.00 more for the Ruger. As far as I am concerned they do the same job at different price points. The nice thing about where we live is we cannot only purchase a gun but also have a choice of which one we want to purchase. A lot of other people in the world are not as fortunate have a conversation about which gun they want to purchase.
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22-rimfire
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I can. I generally prefer Colts and S&W revolvers which are more $$. For me personally, I just can't justify buying cheapie guns even if they shoot. But when I was 21, money was a little harder to come by. But even then after buying what I consider a cheapie (H&R 999), I never bought another one of any manufacture. It took me years before I would even consider buying a Ruger anything....
franconialocal
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I love mine but you really need to bury the front sight for accuracy. Mine came with the .22/.22mag (both) conversions...dropped in easily, the .22 mag is just plain fun.
Xiphoticness
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Out of curiosity, and I'm not trying to derail the thread, is that a Blackhawk under your RR?
And as far as the Heritage guns, my .22lr/.22 mag combo Rough Rider with a 6.5" barrel is a beauty to shoot, but not much to look at. Would I like to have a Single Six as well? Of course, I always want more guns. But I can't say there's anything wrong with my Heritage, at least when it comes to function. And for me, function comes before aesthetic issues when considering a firearm.
For me it depends on what I want it for. I have a pre woodsman, but for 22 games I use a ruger mkII.
You can also say the same thing about a 10/22, are the of poor quality just because of their cost?....in this day in age I think there are very few things that are on the market longer then a year that actually are junk....the market will just not allow it.
Nope for me, I want to listen to the people that actually own the item...be it a gun,guitar or glue....the people that own the item and give their views on it are the most valuable....everything else is just what they feel about the item.
For those that insist on a steel frame instead of aluminum alloy, Heritage makes the Rough Rider in steel: http://www.heritagemfg.com/site/department.cfm?id=1525
I haven't had any problems with my alloy .22 combo, it shoots about the same with .22LR or .22 Magnum. It's not a target pistol, but it's good enough for plinking out to 25 yards or so, which is what I got it for.
I haven't had any problems with my alloy .22 combo, it shoots about the same with .22LR or .22 Magnum. It's not a target pistol, but it's good enough for plinking out to 25 yards or so, which is what I got it for.
22-rimfire
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fpgt72, I own a good selection of Ruger revolvers as well as Colts, Smiths, and others. The Ruger Mark II (heavy barrel) was the first Ruger 22 I purchased and I have been quite pleased with it. I have a 10/22 also, and Yes, I was hesitant to buy one for years. Never cared for the pencil barreled Mark I's. My 10/22 doesn't get shot much as I am not real impressed with the accuracy and don't feel like customizing it to improve it. But I have a lot of 22 handguns and rifles.
You can say that about the market now, but prior to the internet gun forums, you were pretty much on your own, in an experience vacuum, or only learn from perhaps a few others that might own the same firearm. It would have never occurred to me to return a gun to the factory years ago. The fact is none ever broke (except my Mossie 22 which I fixed myself) and if there were constant jamming problems, I sold them off. Let someone else who knows more than me fix it.
As for experience with the Rough Rider, my only experience is based on others I know that own them. If I believed they were a good durable revolver, I'd own one. Like I said, I own quite a few 22's.
I am not saying don't buy a Rough Rider if you can't afford what is generally considered a higher quality firearm... said this in my first post in this thread.
You can say that about the market now, but prior to the internet gun forums, you were pretty much on your own, in an experience vacuum, or only learn from perhaps a few others that might own the same firearm. It would have never occurred to me to return a gun to the factory years ago. The fact is none ever broke (except my Mossie 22 which I fixed myself) and if there were constant jamming problems, I sold them off. Let someone else who knows more than me fix it.
As for experience with the Rough Rider, my only experience is based on others I know that own them. If I believed they were a good durable revolver, I'd own one. Like I said, I own quite a few 22's.
I am not saying don't buy a Rough Rider if you can't afford what is generally considered a higher quality firearm... said this in my first post in this thread.
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I've been very happy with mine. 6 1/2 inch barrel, conversion, fiber optic sites. I've shot the snot out of the .22 LR cylinder with no problems. I carry it daily with the .22 mag cylinder for pigs (you can drive right up on them from time to time,) coyotes, crows, and whatever else I may come across. No, it is not a Single Six, but you don't buy a Chevy Cavalier expecting all the comforts of a Sedan DeVille. The RR will get the job done adequately at a fair price.
I've had one for 2 years, never regretted it a minute. Whenever I take it to the range, it's fun. I loan it out - cheap enough to risk. I teach noobs with it - because I can dry fire it loaded. Works great at pest control. At least 5000 rounds since new and it still looks good and performs as expected.
The trigger is good, maybe 1/16" travel and breaks clean at less than 3lbs. The balance point in my 6½" alloy version is even with the end of the cylinder, very comfortable to handle. The gun has a half cock position for loading and cylinder changes that can act as an additional safety. The discharge finger pull is plastic but the rod is steel and fairly sturdy.
This is an example of a US company building a product that gives great value for money spent. It's not a Mercedes, or even the Escalade of your dreams - it's a Fiesta or a Kia and it works great.
The trigger is good, maybe 1/16" travel and breaks clean at less than 3lbs. The balance point in my 6½" alloy version is even with the end of the cylinder, very comfortable to handle. The gun has a half cock position for loading and cylinder changes that can act as an additional safety. The discharge finger pull is plastic but the rod is steel and fairly sturdy.
This is an example of a US company building a product that gives great value for money spent. It's not a Mercedes, or even the Escalade of your dreams - it's a Fiesta or a Kia and it works great.
first of all, its a missconception that 22LR and 22WMR have different diameter bullets. both have the same .224 dia bullets the difference is that the 22 mag case dia. is larger and the .224 dia. bullet fits inside the case, where the 22LR case has an outside dia of.224 the same dia of the bullet, and the base of the bullet that is inside the case is smaller!! my older new model single six (made in 1973) shoots very accurate consistant 1" groups at 25 yrds off sandbags with its pet loads of both 22mag, and 22LR
I have not shot a heritage gun but have heard good things about them, they should be a good gun at a very reasonable price.
I have not shot a heritage gun but have heard good things about them, they should be a good gun at a very reasonable price.
the cylinders on the single six have to be fit by a gunsmith, and they will only work on the gun they are fit to. the problem is the timeing of the rotation on each individual gun is slightly different, and unless there fit to the gun the cylinder may not line up with the barrel properly. if the cylinder is not properly fit to the gun it will not shoot accurately, and could posibly be very dangerous!!!!
I assume the heritage guns cylinders have to be fit the same as on the ruger. I would suggest contacting Heritage to find out for sure.
I assume the heritage guns cylinders have to be fit the same as on the ruger. I would suggest contacting Heritage to find out for sure.
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Erik M
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My 6 1/2" model has preformed great the last 2 years. While it is no Ruger Bearcat in appearance it has put many .22lr rounds into pop cans and targets reliably. My only complaint is that it got some mud on it while four wheeling one time and I forgot to clean it that night in a time range of 8-10 hours water/mud took whatever finish completely off the gun, so that now my barrel has a quarter sized splotch of bare metal. Its only cosmetic though, it's never failed to shoot straight.
There are videos on youtube where a guy gets to go on a walkthrough of the Heritage production facility.
There are videos on youtube where a guy gets to go on a walkthrough of the Heritage production facility.
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