We're not talking about real threads with thread adhesive. In which case the adhesive only serves to prevent the barrel from unscrewing. We're talking about a ribbed barrel pressed into the frame (and a zinc alloy frame at that) and ONLY held into place with adhesive. Huge difference. That's why Heritage does not want you turning the barrel to correct windage problems.
Really, you use sight adjustments for fixed sight revolvers? How is this accomplished???
Really? Aluminum and zinc are the same now? Zinc based alloys, i.e. pot metal, are cheaper to procure and cheaper to manipulate. So why don't they build airplanes, M-16's and various other things out of zinc instead of aluminum??? It is used because it is cheap to procure and cheap to manipulate. Not because it's the best material for the job. It is used strictly as a cost-cutting measure. Because you don't need the foundry necessary to manipulate steel and aluminum. Because it is little different from casting lead. Think about it for one second, the cheapest guns on the market are made of zinc and for good reason. Sorry but you're not gonna pee down my back and tell me it's raining.
Wrong. "Cheap and inferior" are the God's honest truth. "Affordable" is the politically correct version so that no feelings are hurt. "Value" is not dependent on price alone. "Value" means that you are getting something for your money. Not that you are buying something cheap. A used Single Six may cost as little as $200 and last several lifetimes. THAT is value. Paying that same $200 for a pot metal Heritage is not. Because it will only last several lifetimes if you put in in a shelf. But then there's that thing that zinc does as it ages.
We're comparing them to Rugers, not USFA's or Freedom Arms 97's. You would have a point if we were comparing them to a $900 12/22 or a $1500 FA 97. We're not. This is not a class war. So don't be so dramatic.
I would rather see people do without a great many things in their lives and buy things that are of quality. Rather than just making do with the cheapest stuff they can find. This Walmart mentality is why we are in the predicament we are in as a nation. People would just rather have a bunch of cheap junk.
I'm wrong all the time and am not afraid to admit it. However, single action revolvers are what I spend the most amount of my time, money and energy on and thus, I am very passionate about them and probably know a thing or two. The difference, which is always apparent in these threads, is that I can look at them objectively. As passionate as I am about sixguns, I am under no illusions. I love Rugers but it does not offend me or damage my ego to say that BFR's, USFA's and FA's are "better". I have no problem accepting that new Miroku-made Winchesters are "better" than my `70's vintage guns. Or that pre-war S&W's and Colt's are better than my guns from the `70's-`80's. I have no issue accepting that Westley Richards makes a better double than my Fabarm. Just as it should not take an act of Congress to accept that Rugers are better than Heritage. Same for Henry versus Winchester or Marlin. For reasons that I am still trying to understand, 'some' folks simply cannot accept that things they cannot or more accurately, will not afford might be "better" than their choice. What is "better" or "best" depends entirely on the individual. My threshold is at Ruger. Yours may be at Heritage. That is fine. I don't begrudge others their choices. However, if you say that a Heritage is "just as good" as a Ruger I will call you on it and provide details and reasons as to why it's not true. Just as I would expect the same if one says that Ruger is "just as good" as a BFR, USFA or FA. Or one of any other myriad comparisons. Personally, when I'm researching a potential purchase, I want unbiased facts. Not uneducated opinions from well-intentioned folks who cannot see beyond their own choices.
You do understand that all useful forms of aluminum are alloyed with other metals and that castings/extrusions are methods of manipulating the metal and are mutually exclusive of what the alloy contains???
Waiting for an answer.
No and I never will. Like I've said a hundred times in a hundred other threads, I don't need to lick a turd to know that I would not want to eat it. I don't buy guns I consider "cheap". Nor do I have to own a cheap gun to know that it is cheap. Nor do I have to wear out a cheap gun to know that I shouldn't have bought it. I use this rare gift known as deductive reasoning. It keeps me from wasting money.
More political correctness.
We're not discussing cars and cameras.
Because I'm hard-headed and some folks can't use the search function.
Which is why I make a funny face when folks say that Colt Frontier Scouts are "better" than Single Sixes. In centerfire guns, Colt SAA's are definitely a couple steps above Blackhawks and Vaqueros. Especially with the new Colt's being so good. However, this does not necessarily apply to the rimfire guns. As mentioned, some of them have pot metal frames and funny looking ejector housings of stamped sheetmetal. The later New Frontier .22's had steel frames and better ejector housings but the same grip frames. They are very good sixguns and worth the Colt premium.
In a nutshell and contrary to popular belief, this is the sole purpose for my posting in these threads.
and in reality you are correct that we are not discussing cars, but what you failed to understand is its an analogy, and yes it still stands.
Yup, I got it.
Ruger has been doing a very good job as of late. The New Vaquero and new flat-tops have been much improved over previous New Models and those changes are trickling into the rest of the line. Very good guns and the Single Ten models go a long way towards alleviating the indexing issue present in their other guns. I'm saving my money (yes, what a novel concept, jcwit) towards my next custom sixgun (Old Model .357 Blackhawk) so I won't be running out to order one but if I run across the aforementioned blued 4 5/8" model, I probably won't be able to resist. I handled a stainless model and it was only $439. I just don't care for more stainless guns or 5½" barrels or I would've brought it home.
Whatever helps you sleep at night. Sorry, you'll have to pin that label on somebody else. I also note that the other side is usually incapable of having this discussion without resorting to personal attacks. As illustrated.
