Hey long time.... wondering about the M9...

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I am wondering about getting an M9 model. I understand they have made the M9A1 available to the public also. My questions are simple....
To those who know these pistols well, should I get the Inox, or the Blued?
Also, what modifications are recomended? I will be sticking to 9mm for this one. I have been told the locking block is still a problem.
 
Nothing is wrong with the pistol. They've long since taken care of any safety issues regarding the lugs or slide. As for the Inox or Blued, it's a preference. I think the inoxes are harder to find (not sure haven't really looked). I personally prefer blued guns. I'd say the only modification to do would be to add a light onto the rail, unless it's just for the range. There are mods to change the features of the safety/decock action, but I don't have much info on that.

Good to see a fellow Iowan here.
 
As far as I know you cannot get a M9 stamped Inox. (Ive been wrong once or twice :) )

Inox does seem to hold its value a little better.

Common "improvements" are a metal guide rod and a Mainspring change to the 92 D spring.
 
Also, what modifications are recomended?
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Got money and time? Sams Custom Gunworks (David Sams) is the place to go for modification... but he can be backlogged by as much as a year.
Look on the net for a "gun tests" article on accurizing the 92... as I recall, it's really good.

Jack Weigand's "B/T Nosepiece" is a relatively inexpensive, neat item that will tighten up groups a bit and is relatively easy to install, but I don't believe he makes them anymore, so that could be problematic. I saw a new one for sale at a gun show last year for $125.

After that... it's mostly drop-in stuff as previously mentioned.

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I have never really found any faults with it in the almost 6 years that I have been around it. But my unit recently got ours replaced with M11A1s and that my friends is a beautiful piece of engineering
 
I could easily be wrong

I don't know if they make them only in blued, or inox. blackened stainlsss would be a great move, but probably run the price right up. I never wanted to get a 92 of any model, but i found that i do shoot well with the model in general, along with my Hi Power. I hope, I should check, that they make an extended slide release. thats my main gripe, as my fingers are short while my hands are big. I think I will start out with night sights and an extended slide release, and the recoil spring/guide rod change and sit on that for a while if possible. I like having military tested weapons.
Isn't the M11 the Sig? I have also looked at that, but like most of us, I must pace myself lol.
I like to go out shooting with a carbine to match the pistol of the era/country I chose for the day. I like strange things like that. Still holding out on that M1 carbine lol.
Nice indeed, I rarely see any Iowans on any of the forums I am on.
 
First of all, the black Beretta M9s and 92s and all of their various sub models aren't really blued. They are coated with a very tough coating that Beretta calls "Bruniton". I believe up until about the early or mid 90's they were still blued.

Second, you mention that you want to install night sights on an M9 or 92. These models have a front sight that is part of the slide. There is no way to remove it, so it would have to be filed down and a dovetail slot would have to be milled into the frame. The newer M9A1 and 92/96A1 models have removable front sights.

The very best modification you can make to any DA/SA Beretta M9/92 is the "D spring". This will lighten the double action trigger pull weight considerably, while still keeping the 100% reliability of the weapon. To my Italian 92FS, I also swapped the polymer guide rod for a steel one, changed out the stock plastic grips for some thinner and more aggressively-checkered Alumagrips, and purchased some of the excellent Mec-Gar 18 and 20-round magazines.

I recently put my 92FS through a 300-round Defensive Handgun course, and it performed flawlessly, and scored me 3 gold qualifications in a row of the state law enforcement qualification drills. If you maintain it, practice with it, and commit it's controls and operation to muscle-memory, it will be an accurate and reliable full-size weapon that will last a lifetime.
 
A Beretta 92 platform is one of my very favorite pistols to shoot.

I have a "Turk" made 92F (not FS), made by the Turkish state arms manufacturer, MKEK Girsan. It is the standard sidearm of the Turkish military.
Still has the steel guide rod and trigger.

The 92/M9 types not only look and function very well with the Mec-Gar 20 rounders, the extra length added to the grip is a big plus for those with larger hands.
 
Also, what modifications are recomended? I will be sticking to 9mm for this one. I have been told the locking block is still a problem.
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Military M9s + military M882 ammo + military mandated maintenance = problem with guns that get shot a lot.

If you purchase an M9 and don't run hot ammo through it, you'll probably never have a problem. If you purchase an M9 and do run hot ammo through it, but replace worn out springs at reasonable round counts, you'll probably never have a problem. The locking block issue with military guns appears to be primarily hot ammo and worn out springs leading to the guns getting battered, with the locking block being the point of failure.
 
All good info

I see that inspite of lots of people loving .4+ bores, this is a loved 9mm. I do have a lot of surplus "Nato" 9mm, as well as plenty of hand loads. I only use 124-127gr bullets, and ront load many +p. I like winchester ranger and hornady lines in that bullet weight range for the +p SD loads, but id say about 1800 rounds of what i have is 80's surplus. I have run Nato rounds through my MK"2,5" Hi Power all day long, not a hickup, and i was hapy with accuracy. I may yet remove he mag safety to improve the trigger. I should have mentioned I have a Stoeger Cougar 9mm, which appears to be an exact eplica of the Italian counterpart. It shoots very nicely, but i swear sometimes the trigger bites me. there are faint tool marks inside the slide. A local smith told me I must have got a gun made by a new guy who cared. I think it will make for a nice pair. Then I suppose its finally time to get that CZ75B. a local shop seems to be able to keeo them around. Then I will turn my attention to carbines.That Finnish Suomi looks good, from Centerfire Systems.
 
I really like the M9. I feel that it shoots far better than my Italian 92. I don't think the M9 comes in Inox. And the Italian /US thing is bunk. They cost exactly the same. LGS Rep placed the M9, Italian 92, and US 92 on the display and I picked which one I liked best for $549 (1.5 years ago). He stated that the US are made to military specs and are a little stronger. IDK if that's true or not. I bought the M9 and have sent thousands of rounds down it with never a hiccup. Just last month, I picked up an Italian FS with the aluminum grips. The action felt a bit grittier and the DA pull was heavier. May have simply been the difference between new and thousands of rounds. I also vastly prefer the M9 sights.
 
He stated that the US are made to military specs and are a little stronger. IDK if that's true or not.
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No, it's not true. The US/Italian Beretta debate has been going ever since Beretta opened a factory in Maryland to produce the M9. The US-made M9 and the Italian-made 92FS are identical, except for these small details:

• Dust cover - the M9's is straight, and the 92FS changed to a tapered design in the early 2000's
• Sights - The M9 uses the "dot-the-i" sights, the 92FS uses 3-dot sights
• Backstrap radius - The 92FS has a slightly more radiused area in the backstrap where it curves up into the beavertail allowing a very slightly shorter trigger reach, the M9 does not have this
• M9/Made in U.S. markings versus 92FS/Made in Italy markings on the slide, as well as various little differences in stamps, warnings, etc.
• M9 comes in a cardboard box, 92FS comes in a plastic box padded with foam

No mechanical/material/strength differences between them at all. Any noticeable difference in trigger pull between a US and an Italian gun would either be because of round count, or the above mentioned D spring conversion.
 
Where can I buy the 92 D spring? I'd like to replace my Taurus PT99 mainspring with one.
I love the Beretta 92/M9, but my thumbs are too short to operate the safety without drastically altering my grip.
The Taurus frame mounted safety fits my hands better. That's it. That's the only reason I got the Taurus, instead of the Beretta.
I love my PT99, but the Beretta frame looks better to me.
 
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