Hi, New here. Saiga 12 questions.

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The site says even though the stock stuff works. Improper gas will wear down the weapons fast
 
You might want to try looking at the Saiga 12 forum,
http://forum.saiga-12.com/

They should be able to get you on the right track.

When I eventually get a Saiga 12, I'd probably put something like that on there, but thats just because I think it seems like a good idea. I'm no expert though...

Also, Welcome to THR, and congrats on the new gun. Have you tried shooting it yet? I just finnished a conversion on one of the rifles, and having shot it in the stock configuration really helped me decide what I wanted to get out of hte conversion.

Best of luck to ya,

Chris "the Kayak-Man" Johnson
 
A gas plug should be the #1 thing on your list. I used the "Gunfixr Plug" (yes, it's spelled like that by the creator). It's more expensive, but it's be around longer and it's widely known to produce great results. My Saiga came with the 2-port gas knob, and that just was NOT working out. Get the Gunfixr plug, and you can run cheap low-brass bulk pack from Wal-Mart or wherever else. If you plan on running nothing but high-brass, I would try your gun before I bought the plug; otherwise, definitely make a gas plug your first purchase. Here it is, on sale for the price of the MDArms one. I can't tell you that the MDArms one isn't as good, but I KNOW this one works fantastically, and a ton of others have had the same good results. http://store.carolinashooterssupply.com/servlet/-strse-190/MD-ARMS-SAIGA-12/Detail
I hope this helps! A fully-reliable, converted Saiga 12 has been one of the most fun things I've ever added to my collection. They're a blast, once you iron out the kinks.
 
The gun is delayed at the shop. Will pick it up wednesday. Thanks for the welcome I've been a lurked for about 6 months.
 
Wow thanks for the reply! Where could I find proper instructions so I know how to properly adjust this per ammunition choice?
 
If it doesn't function properly than it doesn't really matter what it looks like! Performance and reliability always comes first.
 
The Gunfixer plug is numbered as such: -1,1,2,3. "3" is the highest gas setting, allowing the lowest brass, weakest loads to cycle. "-1" is really constricted, so if you're blowing three inch magnums out the pipe, the trauma to your shoulder and your gun will be reduced quite a bit, but it'll cycle, still. And +1 to True Grit. A good looking gun loses its appeal quickly when it shoots like total crap.
 
Wow awesome thanks a bunch.
I use a lot of forums and didn't know what I was in for. I think I'll stay if y'all will have me.
 
Welcome to the family! This place has been a great resource for me, and I know it will continue to be for you, as well.
 
So a 1 setting would accommodate a 3" slug? And cheap birdshot from walmart would take a 3?
 
You got it. I shoot almost all low-brass birdshot, so I keep mine on 3 pretty much all the time.
 
Cool next I was wondering... I just tried to read about "converting" the saiga. Blew my mind I didn't know what the hell that was all about but
Everyone was ecstatic
About it on the saiga
Forum.
 
The site says even though the stock stuff works. Improper gas will wear down the weapons fast
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Not if your gun isn't over gassed.

These plugs have two real uses:

1) turning down the gas on an over gassed gun

2) They are easier to change setting than the stock plug

Number two is probably enough of a reason to get one. Thus even if your gun has no gas issues an aftermarket plug that allows adjustment by hand is nice to have

Some people claim that they will help an under gassed guns but that is not what they are designed for and there is some question about how it could actually do that. If this debate interests you go the S12 forums and search out those threads.

As to which is better the gun fixer or the MD arms. MD used to sell the gun fixer. Then they came out with their own that is substantially similar. At the time they released it people accused them of just ripping of the gun fixer plug. MD claims improvements. I'm not real sure that one would see any difference between them.

As to how to use it. You want to use the least amount of gas that will allow the gun to cycle.
 
Awesome info! I'm probably just going to order one right away then. Can you tell me much about the guys that say convert it?
 
I converted mine, piece of cake. Took about an hour and required a hammer, hand drill and screwdriver. Carolina shooting supply has everything you need and ships that day. You will need to brake it in with a hundred or so heavy ( slugs, buck, turkey) loads to make it cycle. Do that before converting since the conversion voids the warranty. Cadiz gunworks out of Ohio handles the warranty in the us and are very helpful.
 
Make sure that if you decide to convert it that you need to take it to a trap range. :D
 
Can't speek for the shotguns, but I have a Saiga rifle that I converted, and even though the gun ran just fine stock, I think it was worth it to be able to use the higher capacity magazines. It kind of depends on what you want to use it for.

Chris "the Kayak-Man" Johnson
 
Can you tell me much about the guys that say convert it?
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They are correct for a number of reasons. if you search saiga or S12 on here I am sure there a dozen threads where I explain why the gun is superior in PG configuration. There is also a S12 project I documented on here you may find of interest.
 
You might not need the plug... Mine shoots light loads fine on the stock plug...
 
Roperninja: Yes, that is all you need, though there are a couple things that would be nice to have to save you a little bit of work. You might want to get a modified BHO lever or you will have to modify your own (or leave it out). You might also want to consider getting the Axis Pin Plate intead of using the Shepard's Crook, since the later is annoying.

As for which trigger guard, it's just cosmetic preference.
 
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