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I have ~900 rounds through my 4595. One failure to feed, on the last round in the magazine. I paid $260 off Gunbroker last winter. It's a more substantial carbine than the price would indicate. For me it's a range toy and test bed for my reloads, but I could see it as a home defense weapon if someone was on a budget.
 
Thanks USAF, that is an improvement. I'm kind of thinking of ordering one, what the heck, the rifle is OK, its just that damm ugly stock stock. Ahem.

I wonder if the ATI stock is make of the same soft plastic, or if it's a stiffer material?
 
Oh, and +1 to Carl's comment on the Planet of the Apes rifles, in fact I thought about that movie every time I see the HiPoint. The designer still lives!! Haha
 
I have a 995ts with about 250 rounds through it. I put a 4x32 scope, brass catcher, bipod, and it came with a forward grip. I love it. I can't say enough about it. Once the scope was doped in, 80 yards within 1 1/2 inch is not unheard of.

If you look at most of the pictures of kaboomed Hi Points, a saw blade went through first.

And customer service is absolutely top notch. I sent in my C9 for a FTF issue, it came back working perfectly, cleaned, with an apology letter, a survey, and 3 extra mags. Can't argue with free stuff, right? Never another issue though(1000 more rds. roughly).
 
Buy the hi-point. good gun

As far as "respected member" without a name you are just spreading manure
 
They are ugly, cheaply made, work better than they should, and are more accurate than you might expect.

If you get a good price, you might as well.
 
Thank you, I think, my friends for all the feedback. The 1911 hi-cap mag conversion was especially interesting. Do these carbines like-dislike steel jacket ammo?
 
I inherited a 9mm old model from my brother
I almost traded it but before I did I said heck with it ill try it out and shoot it
It had the really hinky scope that hi-point offers in the accessories department already on it and my bro lost the front sight post and the entire rear sight assembly
I figured ugh this is gonna be crappy with a 3-9x at only 50 yards but shot anyway
I was really surprised by its accuracy I was doing really well free handed which I rarely shoot (yeah I know start practicing more)
After that I figured Id HAVE to dump money into it to get the sights back on it
Then I contacted Hi-point and bam free sights and free shipping thanks to the forever warranty
While browsing the website I saw the new "tactical" stock but didnt want to shell out the money
A friend of mine who didnt want to admit that it was a neat little gun that shoots well got me (read for himself) the stock for a birthday present
Now I have even batted the idea of doing some 3 gun shoots with it just for the heck of it
If only there were higher capacity magazines
 
No, you can't use 15-rd 1911 mags in them! Anyone that says so should prove it with photos.

I have a 4095 carbine and a 995 carbine for the grandson, they're both great little rifles and outstanding fun! Accurate and reliable. If you look at them (hard to do, they are ugly), they really do look like a pistol with a long barrel and an afterthought plastic stock. But they're shootin' little mothers.....

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Anybody that says they could never trust one for home defense is on crack, or has never fired one. Mine will put 10 rounds of any kind of .40 S&W anywhere you want them, as fast as necessary. Without jamming. And who's ever needed more than 10 rounds in a home defense?

One box of ammo, carbine was fresh out of the box with no sight adjustments. I had to start aiming at the edge of the hole so I could see results. I now have a red-dot sight on it and it's deadly accurate with it. Golf balls fear me!

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And they look nothing like "The Planet of the Apes Guns". Those were actually M1 Carbines anyway.

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I've had great luck with the Hi-Points that I have owned (all four calibers). I looked hard at the carbine and held one and fondled it some, but then I compared it side-by-side to a Kel-Tec Sub 2000 that is a couple pounds lighter, takes Glock magazines including the 33 round mag, and it folds in the middle for a carry package that is only about 16" long and 7" high. It's a hoot to shoot as well. I had to have one even though it's a little more expensive than the Hi-Point. To me the Kel-Tec is wort a lot more. Try them both and make your own decision.

Dave :neener:
 
ok since I read this thread I got curious and looked on Youtube for different stuff on the HPs

well I noticed the new ones (carbines that is) have a last round hold open is this true or is it a mod?

and can the old carbine be modded to add this?

Its the only feature I would want thats not already there
 
fallout mike said:
Dave, I'm surprised u haven't heard about them. Stay away!!!! One of our fellow highly esteemed, respected members on here says he has had dozens of hipoints "literally blow up in my hands".
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I call BS! I don't like the pistols, and have heard of 2 or 3 failures, but I have heard that and more about Glock, S&W, SIG, Springfiels etc etc.

I have two of the pistols and haven't pulled them out of the safe in 2 yers, they work just fine though, I simply do not like the design and features.
The carbines, on the other hand, I have all 3. 9MM, .40 S&W, and .45 ACP. All are reliable guns that I would feel just fine defending myself or family with. I just don't see a pistol caliber carbine as the best choice for HD. There are 2 rifles behind my bedroom door loaded, A HiPoint 4095 TS and A Colt AR 15A2.If someone has had "literally dozens of Hipoints blow up in his hands". What idiot would shoot one after 1, definitely after 2 had "blown up in his hands"
If you want to bash them because you are a gun snob so be it, don't hide behind lies and exaggerations. They cut corners by making them less cool, and crappy safety levers and such, but they go bang every time. There was a torture test I saw a week or so ago where these guys packed it in mud, filled it with sand all kinds of stuff and it was still working. I was amazed.
http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/2010/10/16/hi-point-pistols-the-ultimate-torture-test/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_HXtEvjlGg&feature=relmfu
 
USAF_Vet said:
This is correct but (and I have no direct experience with this yet, other than a youtube video) the mags need to be modifed. Once modified, they will work in the Hi Point, but can no longer be used in a 1911.

That said, I own the 995TS carbine and love it. I'm still trying to find an optic for it that suits me, but the rifle is fine. I also own the Hi Point .45 pistol. Love that one too. Big, ugly heavy guns with no frills that shoot fine, go bang every time, and are fairly, surprisingly accurate. In this case, you get more than you pay for.
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And obviously only for the .45, the others, sorry, out of luck.
 
Lead,
When did you get your carbine? I only ask because a couple years ago, they changed it from that fantasticly ugly stock to something less ugly. I think Hi-Point had/has a trade in program where they would replace the stock so you're not stuck with one that looks like the old model, but I could be wrong.

For anyone interested, this is what they look like now: http://www.hi-pointfirearms.com/carbines/carbines_9mm.html

To the OP:

I don't have any experiance with thier carbines, but I have one of the 45 pistols, and think its terrific. Its very reliable, and as far as accuracy goes, it will do its job if I do mine. Some people say the Hi-Points are junk and go kaboom, but I think they are lumping 1980's incarnations of Raven, Jennings, Bryco, Hi-Point, and similar guns into one category, and calling them all Hi-Points. If they did go Kaboom as often as they did, I'm pretty sure that by now, we'd either have some photo/video evidence, have a member posting about his recent hospital stay, the company would be out of buiseness, or there would be a thread here titled: "Warning - Hi-Points Deffective."

Just remember what the gun is. Its not a custom hunting rifle designed to Ted Nugents specifications any more than its a Main Battle Rifle designed for the USMC. Its an inexpensive, reliable, american made firearm with a "Now to Judgement Day" warrenty.

Hope this helps,

Chris "the Kayak-Man" Johnson.

By the way, my offer to everyone who thinks the Hi-Point is worthless junk - to come out here and shoot my Hi-Point 45 - still stands....
 
Dimis, that is true for the new ones. No idea about modding the old ones
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Dang it lol

Anyone with a new and old model that can shed some light on how the BHO works Id be a happy guy lol
maybe pictures or a description of how or where it works
 
I don't believe there is a way to mod the old carbines for a bolt hold open. It's a bit hard to describe, but there is a small lever inside the receiver on the new ones that locks back the bolt. The mag follower lifts this lever after the last round is fired, thus activating the mechanism and locking back the bolt. The aftermarket Promags do not work in this fashion without modification to the magazine. Promags for the Hi Point just suck anyway.

If you have an old HP, contact customer service and see if they will do a swap for you. Better have the company do it rather than try to mod it yourself.
 
If you have an old HP, contact customer service and see if they will do a swap for you. Better have the company do it rather than try to mod it yourself.
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+1

They have a reputation for fantastic customer service, I'd call them and see if they will do anything about it.

Chris "the Kayak-Man" Johnson
 
If your gun is screwed up enough to replace they will swap it out, I asked about adding the BHO on my 995B and they said it can't be done.
 
The bolt hold open on a pistol caliber carbine isn't all that noteworthy IMO. Even with the bolt locked to the rear, you still need to pull back the bolt handle to chamber a round from a fresh mag. All you're saving yourself with the BHO is about 1.5" length of pull.
 
thanks jm maybe my gun will suffer a freak "accident" and get replaced... now where did I park my truck? lol

USAF I use the BHO as a signal that Im empty almost every gun I use is like this so Im used to it
I still count rounds but sometimes you lose track and its just a feature Id like
 
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