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  1. Panzerschwein

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    Thanks! Anyone know about the magazines with the spring that flips the magazine out? That seems neat.

    Also I bought a British PLCE pistol holster in DPM camo with a PLCE belt off ebay. Looks like I found the proper military holster. :)
     
  2. Blacksmoke

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    I held a BHP one time only; in 1987 at a gun store. Perhaps I need to get out more! This thread has peaked my interest in that old classic.
     
  3. cxm

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    THe spring (mouse trap) magazines are FN/Browning factory mags. The spring is there to cause the mag to exit the gun when the mag release is activated... absent the spring the magazines must be manually pulled from the gun to re-load... Removing the magazine interlock not only improves the trigger but also causes the mag to fall free when you activate the mag release so no spring is needed.

    I have some 'mouse trap' mags but I don't use them... the spring causes wear on the heel of the grip frame where it pushes on the frame to eject the magazine... this of course is at a minimum unsightly... I don't like premature wear on my guns.

    FWIW

    Chuck


     
  4. Sistema1927

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    Congratulations. It probably won't be the last BHP you buy.

    Suggestion: Replace all the springs ASAP, especially the extractor spring. BH Spring Solutions is your friend:
    http://bhspringsolutions.com/14-hipower-spring-kits

    Their springs and Hi-Power tools are all first rate at great prices.
     
  5. Panzerschwein

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    Is there any reason that I must do this?

    The seller answered my questions, he said the gun is in great shape and only the front sight was painted orange and shortened. Not to worry as replacement factory front sights of the proper type are available and not expensive. I'm so happy! I still think I might "spring" (pun intended) for some of the spring-loaded magazines that fly out the gun. Seems that would improve reload times. I won't mind if it makes a mark on the gun, I suppose it comes with the territory. I'm also glad I was able to find the proper military holster for a Mk III Browning as well. Apparently they are becoming more available as the British are switching (or have switched fully) to the Glock 17 Gen 4 and they can't use the same holsters.
     
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    Great pistols, plenty of them over here "Beirut", just try to find the t1 or t2 series
     
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  7. Panzerschwein

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    Thanks! I love to hear from people around the world concerning what guns are popular in their area. It seems the Hi Power is more popular outside of the US than inside, most Americans adore the M1911.
     
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    You don't have to do it, but in my experience it will probably save you some headaches, especially with regard to the extractor spring.

    The gun can be in "great shape" with worn out springs. Will you have any clue as to how many rounds or years are on those springs? Cheap insurance, but to each their own.
     
  9. Panzerschwein

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    Thanks for the tip! I will see if the springs need changed by shooting it first.
     
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    If you remove the magazine disconnect standard magazines may drop out freely. I'd try that first unless you don't like the idea of removing this "feature".
     
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    With regard to removing the mag safety, pre Mk II pistols can be removed with the trigger in place. Mk II and III pistols require removal of the trigger assy which can be a real challenge. The pin is removed right to left as the holes are a different size, a punch cupped out to fit the small protrusion on the pin prevents smashing that small point. The pin on many of the Israeli pistols is very hard to remove and some have had to use an arbor press to get it out. I could not move one of mine with a 4# sledge and gave up, my gunsmith friend swung three powerful blows before the pin relented and moved out the left side. There is also a groove on the pin that a spring rests on so you should move it out of the groove before banging on the pin.
     
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    My Mk III is a '94 model and still on the original springs minus anything associated with the mag disconnect which I removed. It has never once malfunctioned on me in any way. That said, it doesn't have a ton of rounds through it. Yours looks like it probably doesn't either.

    Re: the mag disconnect, as ibmikey kind of alluded, be SURE you understand exactly what you need to do before attempting to remove it yourself. There is some correct info, and some incorrect info on the web about how to do it.
     
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  13. Panzerschwein

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    I think I will stay with the mag disconnect for now. It should not impede it's range use too much. I would like to fetch some magazines with the little springs on them to have the mags come out faster however, but if not that's okay too.
     
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    Thanks for the info on the PLCE holster and belt. Might add a set to my military holster collection!. My Mk.II Hi Power had the best trigger pull of any Hi Power I have ever used, right out of the box and without removing the mag disconnect. Had a friend of mine who had to remove the trigger like ibmikey described and later had problems with the trigger pin constantly working it's way out. Proceed with caution my friend.
     
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    That is commonly reported as a consequence of removing the pin from the wrong direction. I've seen instructions on the web that were explicit in specifying the "correct" direction, yet they had it WRONG. Proceed with caution indeed!
     
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    Got any links (prefer video of possible) to the correct way for the later MKIII models?
     
  17. Janos Dracwlya

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    I know you have already bought, but I will add my endorsement of CDI / Cole Distributing. They are half an hour down the road from me, and I have bought several guns from them, as well as guns they imported from a local pawn shop run by a good friend of Mr. Cole. All the guns I bought have been good, though, as someone mentioned, changing the springs is a very good idea with any surplus gun (my only complaint with any of the guns I've bought from them, and not their fault).
     
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    Keep in mind the 'mouse trap' magazines will wear the finish on your gun where they push against the frame very rapidly until you have bear metal...

    FWIW

    Chuck


     
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    I'll second this. When I got my Hi Power after removing the magazine disconnect the trigger spring no longer had enough "oomph" to reset after firing, and the extractor spring was weak enough that I was having FTE's too.

    I ended up replacing both of those plus the hammer spring (it was working fine but I went with a lighter one for the trigger) and with those changes my Hi Power went from a jammomatic to virtually flawless.

    I do intend to soon have the slide milled to accept a set of Heinie sights as that's my main complaint left with the gun.
     
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    when you find someone to mill a Mark 1 for Heine Straight 8s qiockly and reasonably please PM me.
     
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    If all you need is the sights milled I would try Don Williams of The Action Works. He has a long wait for full house custom work but a quick slide mill and sight install might not take that long.

    Another option is APW Cogan. They do excellent work as well! Novak is super fast on sight installation but you have to install Novak sights.

    Jim Garthwaite put Henies on this one but his wait time is very long. I used a gold bead for the front sight.

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    Does Heinie offer the service?
     
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    They do but they charge $185 if I remember right. Almost everywhere else I looked was cheaper.
     
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    That is a KRD mag, South African I think. 2 extra rounds.
     
  25. Panzerschwein

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    Guys I got my replacement sight from Midway. The paint on it was all dickered up. Called them up and they're sending a replacement. Score.
     
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