Hickok45 inadvertently proves Kahr magazines suck

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If you watched the recent Hickok45 Glock 43 review, did you notice something when he was comparing the G43 to the Kahr PM/CM9? Go take a gander around 9:30. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pHdg4F15aQ)

For every possible reason (second round position, pocket round spills, known metal cracking, mag base plates that don't stay put, etc) the Kahr magazines have to be the worst magazines on the market.
 
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I had a CM9 magazine floorplate that would slide off, one day parts shot across the room and I couldn't find the locking plate. When I sent the gun in to get a rampectomy I sent the mag in with just the floor plate on the mag and they replaced the locking plate.

I notice that they use a nub to lock the floorplate in instead of a "U" shaped metal piece. The "U" shaped lock is much better, I can just push on my CM9 floorplates and they come right off, I don't need to depress the nub.
 
Agreed.

My Kahr p3800's baseplate fell off and flooded my kitchen with ammo. Was bribing the cat for weeks to get all 6 rounds back. Had to crimp the metal baseplates on to lock them in place. Nothinga pair of wire cutters (dikes) can't do.

I also noticed the the base plate hits the frame on reloads, so I trimmed the baseplate on one of my mags, that would always be a reload, for clearance. It looks pretty hillbilly, but it worked.

Now that Glock and S&W have single stacks, I have no more need for Kahr.
 
I had a cw9 that had an annoying propensity to drop the mag on its own volition

My current CT45 takes 1911 mags after some slight modifications to the frame so now I'm not beholden to Kahr for mags
 
i like the idea of having a really compact pistol with a single stack mag... so you can carry two of them
 
If Kahr made a better mag, they'd have a better gun. I've had a follower break. Maybe it should be metal instead of plastic. Aftermarket followers may be the answer to that one... but at a cost.
 
meh.. i think the bersa thunder UC pro pistols are by far the best compact carry pistols you can get for the price
 
For every possible reason (second round position, pocket round spills, known metal cracking, mag base plates that don't stay put, etc) the Kahr magazines have to be the worst magazines on the market.
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WOW, according to all you "experts", my Kahr must suck, but after 8-9 years, no issues of any kind...........mags work perfectly, gun does too.........
 
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News to me, I have never had any issues with my KAHR mags.
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Same here. I've had my K9 since the mid 90's and I recently purchased a CM9. No problems with the magazines whatsoever. Maybe I'm just lucky.
 
I guess my CW9 and its three mags are what they are. I think adequate, is the correct term.

My only comment is that my CW9 takes a while to shoot accurately. Grips are not my favorite. It took practice to shoot well.

I have not had a problem with the mags.
 
I've never had issues with Kahr mags. Now to be fair they haven't been used as hard as those of my primary gun which has been through multiple training courses and many more range hours. That said if the mags were totally Pieces of junk across the board I think sometime in the last 15 years (and multiple guns) I would have had some problem.
 
I've had a follower break. Maybe it should be metal instead of plastic. Aftermarket followers may be the answer to that one... but at a cost.
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Usually that happens because the feed ramp is snugged up against the follower, it is the bottom portion of the feed ramp where the bullet doesn't even touch - its usually an out of spec feed ramp that needs to be shortened.

Who said the metal cracked?

For my CM9 the feed ramp knocked a semi-circle out of the plastic follower - the magazine still worked fine and the gun ran like a champ - never a failure to feed, eject or go into battery.

The magazines with the plastic baseplate don't have a problem slipping off. For those folks who say they've never had a problem with their Kahr mags, do a simple test, grab only the sides of your metal baseplate, without touching the detent, try to slide the floorplate forward. I'm doing it right now with my Kahr mag and I can get it to slide off easily.

Is the floorplate really supposed to do that?

I've never had a floorplate slide off while shooting, holstering, or unholstering my CM9 but that doesn't mean the floorplate is in there securely enough - try the experiment yourself, just make sure you're in a small clean workspace so you can find the pieces if it does come apart.
 
I had an early P9.

If you gave a loaded magazine a hard look, it would puke a round.

Believe it or not I found Promag magazines to work better than the factory jobs. Even the 10 rd Promag magazine worked better.
 
I've honestly never shot a Kahr but did have a Hi Point 380 mag do something similar where the baseplate slipped off spilling rounds all over the inside of my old Saturn back in the day.
 
My Kahr p45 was tied as the most unreliable handgun I have ever seen, tied only with a new Kimber Grand Raptor I bought. Both were completely useless guns as delivered from the factory.
 
Got 6 Kahr mags, never had a problem, One is from 1 20 yr old P9, with a steel baseplate, another is the extended mag, a new model with the extension just the same size as the mag only longer, and the 2 I put pierce plates on because the guy bought 2 new 6 rounder's and filed the down where they were almost see through, he was going for some kind of stealth look, so I just put new ones on, But none of them, Maybe because I altered 2, had an old all metal one, and bought the extended new model, had a problem, I think I only have 1 out of 6 that is original. But I will look at them now that I saw this, and maybe put a spot of Loctite on each side. that is a pretty easy fix.
 
By the way, I always rave about my PM9, but I forget that a cop had it and he sent it back and had NS put on, and Kahr went over the entire gun, they polished the internals, "I looked" and it's like a gunsmith took out all the parts and polished them on a buffing wheel, I do this for a living on scissors and knives, so I can tell, they really went to town on everything from the barrel to the trigger, it is all highly polished, so it feels different than a standard gun, kind of like a scissor that I would do for a high end hairdresser, you hear nothing when they cut, and the blade is so highly polished that the shine like a mirror, and the ride line is mirror polished.
Doing things like that can alter the way a mechanical device functions, as long as you know what you are doing. So I don't know how bad it was before a smith worked on it, but he did say he had stoppages, I never have had 1 incident with it, but again it's not stock.
 
It is a simple test, grab only the sides of your metal baseplate, without touching the detent, try to slide the floorplate forward.
 
I have a K9 and K40 and have never had a magazine problem.All my mags have the plastic base plate, not the metal.I have owned them since they came out in the late 90s.
 
The Kahr magazines with the plastic floorplates are fine, I have the 8 round 9mm magazine with the plastic floorplate and it doesn't come off just by tugging on it.
 
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