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My spare P9 magazine would unload itself in my pocket. Due to the drastic change in how the top round is held in the magazine relative to #2-7 most likely.
Hickok45 inadvertently proves Kahr magazines suck
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Richard Head
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No way I'm replacing my PM9 with a Glock, that would be a huge step down in quality.
I have a PM9, but don't carry it because all three mags dump their rounds when I carry them as spares in a pocket. I'm not going to carry a pocket gun and then have to wear a belt to put a spare mag carrier on to keep rounds in the mag. I have a P380, and it does not have the problem.
silicosys4
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I traded/sold all three of my Kahrs away.
The magazine issues, while they were there, were by far the least of their problems.
I didn't so much care that the magazines couldn't stay loaded while in my pocket,
After all, who needs a reload when the gun won't feed the first magazine reliably anyways?
After having had both, I'll take a glock any day. Much higher quality, better materials, better machining, just a much better design imo. You can be reasonably sure a glock will work out the box. A CM, CW, or PM kahr is too much of a crap shoot for me to take them seriously as a manufacturer any more.
The magazine issues, while they were there, were by far the least of their problems.
I didn't so much care that the magazines couldn't stay loaded while in my pocket,
After all, who needs a reload when the gun won't feed the first magazine reliably anyways?
After having had both, I'll take a glock any day. Much higher quality, better materials, better machining, just a much better design imo. You can be reasonably sure a glock will work out the box. A CM, CW, or PM kahr is too much of a crap shoot for me to take them seriously as a manufacturer any more.
jimbo555
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I had the opposite experience. My glock 26,36 and 30 had feed issues and we're not reliable for me. My pm9 and cw45 have been perfect.
dfariswheel
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I've noticed that Kahr magazines retainer may not fully lock into the floor plate hole unless you're careful to make sure it snaps in place.
If not, the floor plate is not locked and you can push it off.
All it takes is a second to insure the retainer "button" fully snaps into the hole in the floor plate.
Once it's seated, you can't push the floor plate off.
If not, the floor plate is not locked and you can push it off.
All it takes is a second to insure the retainer "button" fully snaps into the hole in the floor plate.
Once it's seated, you can't push the floor plate off.
Deaf Smith
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Me neither. Of course I leave mine stock with the finger rest on the bottom.
Must have 6 mags and they all work perfect. I use the K9 as I like the all steel construction.
Deaf
I have two 6-round magazines for my CM9 sitting right in front of me, with one magazine, the retainer clicks in place and the floor plate won't move, with the other 6-round magazine, the retainer clicks in place with an audible click and floor plate still moves - I can slide it right off.
If I have time tomorrow I'll call Kahr.
george burns
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I have several glocks and kahr firearms and they all function just fine. I would not keep a gun that had a problem, it isn't worth it to fix it unless you enjoy tinkering. But a magazine plate is really not an issue unless you take your mags apart, and honestly in 45 years I never have. Just put a drop of Loctite on both sides and snap it into place.
When I was shopping the CW45, I looked at the magazine and thought it looked almost identical to a 1911 mag. Sure enough, fits, locks in, and feeds just fine.
Kinda nice that a compact 1911 mag will fit flush in the CW45 as I hate the base plate sticking out..
Have had two CW380s and a PM9 for a long time, no issues with the mags.
Kinda nice that a compact 1911 mag will fit flush in the CW45 as I hate the base plate sticking out..
Have had two CW380s and a PM9 for a long time, no issues with the mags.
JimC
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Are you serious? Are you kidding me?
I've had my G43 for nearly two months now. It has 964 flawless rounds thru it.
No part failures, no part replacements. No calls to Glock in regards to the pistol giving me problems at all. It just keeps on ticking like that Timex watch.
My PM9 failed on day one by splitting apart two magazines. Day two and a call to Kahr CS and the PM9 had to go back already!
Long story short, my PM9 had to be returned to Kahr twice before it would run 100% and I'm not sure that at any point it will not fail again
Kahr replaced at N/C, several parts including three mag followers that broke while firing and two recoil assemblies that failed. A new one with only 37 rds. on it failed. :banghead:
IMO, the G43 is a huge step UP from the dismal failures of my PM9.
Just tested my CM9 mags. The baseplates on mine are fine.
My opinion is that Kahrs are very inconsistent with regard to quality. I have a CM9 and a CW45.
The CM9 is totally reliable and is my EDC.
The CW45 has been back to the factory twice and still doesn't work correctly. I've pretty much given up on it ever working correctly, and it has so many avenues of failure (magazine problems, slide stop problems, feed problems, etc), that I'd never sell it to anyone.
I joke with people that my CW45 is great for practicing failure drills, but the sad truth is that's exactly what I use it for.
If I had a problem with the baseplate on my CM9 mags, I'd either call Kahr to see if I could get new ones, or just buy new mags. No biggie
My opinion is that Kahrs are very inconsistent with regard to quality. I have a CM9 and a CW45.
The CM9 is totally reliable and is my EDC.
The CW45 has been back to the factory twice and still doesn't work correctly. I've pretty much given up on it ever working correctly, and it has so many avenues of failure (magazine problems, slide stop problems, feed problems, etc), that I'd never sell it to anyone.
I joke with people that my CW45 is great for practicing failure drills, but the sad truth is that's exactly what I use it for.
If I had a problem with the baseplate on my CM9 mags, I'd either call Kahr to see if I could get new ones, or just buy new mags. No biggie
papaairbear
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I've had no issues either. And I routinely carry a spare mag loose in my pocket. It's a P380 in a leather holster if that matters, but the spare mag is carried loose in my other pocket.
usp9
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At the indicated time in the video the base plate on the mag inserted into the Kahr is sliding off. A small but noticeable gap at the rear of the mag base.
Thanks!
Capt. Ct.
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I never had any magazine problems with my Kahr. Then again the whole gun exploded before I ever got the first one hundred rounds through it.
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I have managed to break three magazine followers while shooting a CM9. Two of the three just broke the front leg. The last one broke both legs. I am going to try metal ones. The only thing that the factory offered me is more nylon followers.
JimC
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A couple of years ago I replaced the original (raw SS) base plates on my PM9 mags with the newer black coated ones when they went on sale on the Kahr web site.
The dimple on the ones that I got seem to be struck a little better and tend to stay in place a little better.
The dimple on the ones that I got seem to be struck a little better and tend to stay in place a little better.
Kahr CT9 no problems whatsoever
I purchased my Kahr CT9 last summer. It has performed flawlessly. All 3 magazines have worked without any issues whatsoever. Round count to date is a little less then 1000. The pistol fits my hand very well and more important I can hit what I aim at. This is one of my carry guns because I trust it that much.
I purchased my Kahr CT9 last summer. It has performed flawlessly. All 3 magazines have worked without any issues whatsoever. Round count to date is a little less then 1000. The pistol fits my hand very well and more important I can hit what I aim at. This is one of my carry guns because I trust it that much.
Didn't they offer to shorten your feed ramp?
The problem is caused by the lower portion of the feedramp snugging up against the follower. Under recoil the feed ramp wacks the follower and breaks it. The portion of the feed ramp is well below where the bullet contacts the feed ramp and it can be shortened. Its called a rampectomy on KahrTalk. I sent my CM9 back and they shortened it up and I haven't had any problems since.
You can test it by taking a strip of paper and putting it between the magazine and the feed ramp, if the follower is snugged up against the feed ramp you won't be able to fit the strip of paper between them.
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