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mike5123

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I am in the process of designing a hidden room in my house. I have found a perfect place its right behind a wall i.e. dead space. Now it comes to the concealment of the door any ideas? The ones on the internet are a little higher price than I want to pay.
Does anybody have one, I would like to see/steel some ideas:D
thanks
 
I hope some people give good ideas .. I wouldn't mind doing something like that .. odds are the people paranoid enough to make one in their house wont post it on the internet ..:banghead: .. let me know if you find any good ideas.. I may do this in the future
 
Not entirely sure that people who have spent $$$$ renovating to build hidden rooms are going to post pictures of the door on the internet :scrutiny:

You know your house best. What would conceal the door yet leave it readily accesible and fit in w/ the surroundings? There are plenty of ideas floating around on google FWIW. If you want something more original, asking people on an internet forum is going to defeat the purpose :uhoh:
 
try this

Don't make a door opening, make the entire wall section removeable assuming its not too heavy.

A smart guy will look for seams. Just make sure yours are fairly far apart and innocuous.

Also - if you are not planning to go into it very often, a little caulk to hide the seams and / or a little paint.

I have a door in my basement leading upstairs that everyone misses because it looks just like a wall even tho it has a handle on it.
 
My thought would be a a book case. Put it over opening and then anchor it from safe room. Depending how strong a bookcase (lightly loaded) with rollers if solid floor and then have a hole to shoot some dust out on floor.
 
What I am going to do when we move is make a secret door in the chair rail wood in the dining room. I am not sure what that is even called but you know, the sections of wood under the chair rail that fancies the dining room up? one of those sections can be on rollers and guides and just blend right in.
just an idea.
 
I'm about to start building a house. I am proud to say that my wife is in perfect agreement with me in having a secure, and hidden room.

I am essentially building a walk-in safe room about the size of two side-by-side walk-in closets. The room will be a fully internal room to avoid having a profile from outside the home that would not be accounted for.

There are a number of ways to disguise the door to the room. One is a built-in bookcase that is on a hinge. You can have the door inside of a closet. You can have a wall panel that moves and has a border concealing the seam.

I've even considered having an underground room such as a basement-type room-- since practically NO ONE down here has basements. Its not something that people would look for.

I know what I am doing, but I'll keep it to myself :)

All the best!

John
 
I have a friend with a basement bar and rec room area, The wall behind the bar is covered with old barnboards, some antlered deer skulls, antelope heads, old rusty traps, wagon wheel, etc. Also a woven Indian blanket. A hidden electric solenoid switch releases a deadbolt and a section of the wall behind the blanket pivots open if you know where to push on it. It opens to a 5x18 room with a very impressive collection. racks of rifles and shotguns on one wall, pegboard hung handguns on the other. shelves at the bottom full of ammo and other essentials.
If I ever have the right place for it, I'm going to do much the same thing.
 
Consult a Mom & Pop Locksmith / Safe Dealer.

Key to all this is - Keeping mouth shut from get-go to got-done.

I do not care how hidden, how secure, how tricked out with alarms and locks...loose lips will open any secure measures.

Three may keep a secret if two of them are dead - Ben Franklin

We did not tell some employees, or access when these employees were around.
Kids never knew the business /home had these until much bigger.

When you come home to find your wife with a shotgun barrel in her mouth, you will show the BGs the hidden area, and open that sucker up!

Get a phone call your child ( and you hear child's voice) is going to be "babysat" until secure measures are opened ...

That "car wreck" was not - instead a Bump&Grab to get someone with access to access secure measures.

I do not want to know - I would be a bit careful posting on Internet.
Then again some of the best security measure are learned from Criminals.

Trust a Mom&Pop Locksmith/ Safe business. These folks know how to keep mouths shut, know what works, what does not and - do not be surprised if they question YOU as to why you are asking them questions.

There is old unwritten code about some security measures and what is discussed and shared.
 
one thought

is safe room actually on first floor possible second out through crawl space but acess it from upstairs through trap door. lets you hide door where folks don't normally look and being able to escape through crawl is a nice option for escape or to outflank bad guys. threshold in dooorway to closet where hatch is can hide the seam nail shoe mold to floor instead of wall so it hides edges. door opens down with a substantial brace to floor make it hard to break in.
 
I imagine the three most desireous factors would be ease of accessibility, apparent invisibility, and coolness factor (not necessarily in that order). I can't think of anything that hasn't been mentioned - doors, hinges, tracks, etc. - other than possibly obfuscating the room in a non-traditional manner.

For instance, maybe put an inlaid entertainment console (a small one) on tracks, and inlay it into the wall. Obviously the console would need to be framed in such a fashion that it isn't evidently a door (maybe it sticks out a bit - it would all depend on how the 'door' room is organized and designed.

Design the tracks so that the console slides backwards and to one side (rotating) allowing entrance, and then can be pushed back into place (and then can obviously be opened up from the inside again) from the inside. You could then design (if you have the aptitude) a simple contact circuit for the TV's electricity for when the door is shut (or simply use a retractable cable of some kind so that you don't run into any problems). To the unknowing it looks to be 100% an integral wall complete with electricity. You might have to make the front faceplate on the bottom hinged (so it wouldn't interfere with the tracks), but you might use that as the release mechanism.

In other words, you'd pull upwards/outwards on the bottom, and it would unlatch the door, allowing it to roll backwards on a pivot (I imagine using 3 wheels, two on the ouside and one on the inside). Having it on the bottom like this is nice, as then it doesn't leave any evident signs of entry over time, like body oil. You could just attribute it to being kicked or something as well.

Alternatively, you could use a tensioned lever on the other side of the room (or in another room, even) which would deactivate the lever. It could be magnetically held in place, only requiring a fairly negligible amount of tension to unlatch the door. Then you could have the wheels on a slight incline to start off with, so it would roll backwards slightly out of the 'latched' position naturally.

I personally plan for a subterranian lair one day myself. The door may be underneath a slightly raised platform in my library. On top of the (carpeted, so you can't see a seam) platform I'll have a recliner firmly fastened to the floor - or maybe something else, we'll see. I'll use a rubber sealant all around the base of this platform so that no odors will leak into the upstairs. The trap door (which has a recliner and a reading chair on it, mind) will be released with a tensioned lever - the actual fastening mechanism being something like a car door handle in terms of tension, to hold it firmly in place. I'm not sure what I'd use for the lever - something innocuous, random, and cluttered-looking, probably, as I do the 'cluttered' thing well as a system of natural organization ;P.

The door itself would then open using hydraulic pistons, similar to what is used on the rear door of a minivan. I'd make sure the pistons and the door were in the right weight proportions that it only required approximately 20 additional pounds to shut afterwards, and a gentle tug would be enough to assist it in opening fully.

What would lie beneath is entirely in the realm of spy novels, but it's something which is reasonably achievable if I ever make enough money. :)
 
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Some of the best-kept secrets are in the open, too. People just don't realize there's anything significant about them.
 
As soemone with an architectural degree please do not call it a hidden room as that just makes everyoen say "he needs to bring it up to bedroom code by putting in windows".

Just get books on old house architecture, built in furniture (what your trying to do here). A good book is "the elements of style" general editor is stephen calloway, isbn 1-55407-079-1

I suggest a highly decorated wall with lots of pillars on it to form the edges of doors and handles.
 
Safe Room

I have a safe room with an additional safe inside it. It has a Steel door with steel door frame and Five safe bolts and an electronic lock. It is also separately alarmed and monitored from the rest of the house. The double locking door, specially designed, will also lock someone in it and requires a code to exit if closed.
 
I used a wall mural to conceal a door. If you look for it you can see it, but if you are not looking for a door you will have a hard time noticing. I put in the door jamb and spackled it smooth with the wall. Made sure the door was a tight fit and put the mural over it and cut out around the door. I have had a few family members surprised when I opened up the wall.
 
You will be tempted to show your hidden room to friends and associates. Don't! They might be honest, but you never know when they have a few drinks too many, and brag about this buddy they have with the $100,000 gun collection to their buddy Harry, who just happens to owe the mob a bunch of money and will have his legs broken if he does not cough up pretty soon. Ditto for your kids, it might be hard to keep it from them, but do your best. You are more likely to be robbed by someone under 21 than anybody else. And if you are known to be a gun owner, leave a few "pickings" out in the open. It's like carrying a throw away wallet with a few loose bills in it while your real wallet is hidden. If they know you have guns, and they don't find it, they will be more likely to look a little deeper. You might consider a silent monitored alarm and or pepperspray trigger. If you have it done, make sure you know who will be doing the work. You don't want half the town's illegal immigrants show up to install your "secret room".
 
I think that i will be doing the work my self that way I can add all the little features that I might need
 
my family found two rooms when they moved in. 150 year old house - quite a restoration project. the one was a bathroom that had been wallpapered over. probably not an option for you. the second was in the basement - it had wall-hanging pegboard mounted on it to conceal the knobless door. don't know where you're thinking, but it wasn't half bad. we had some cement laid in the basement one and it's just more storage now. funnily enough the house had been part of the underground railroad, although i think these two doors became house mysteries well after that period.
 
Looking at the hidden door websites, one thought that I have is that the art of hiding things is as much misdirection as it is camouflage. Anything that has the height and width of a door, the aspect ratio of a door, or is in a place that one would expect a door, is probably a door.

Humans are the ultimate pattern matching processors, and so it's best that your entrance not match common patterns.
 
A clever one I saw in a house I was looking at was a set of recessed shelving set into the wall of a den. Very nice job with stained wood, lots of books, very professional. The trick was a trigger switch mounted in another room that would unlatch the shelves for a brief period, you'd then go into that room and you could slide the shelves sideways (like a pocket door) on hidden rails to reveal a crawlspace with a safe and gunracks.

It was really a first class setup and there were no hints that it was a hidden compartment.
 
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