High Standard 1911?

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Guys, I just came back from a gun show and this guy is selling these new 1911s made by High Standard for $399. He claim that they are made in an old Remington Rand factory in the Phillipines, and that these guns are all forged steel( no MIM). Anyone ever hear of these? Is this guy full of BS, or should I run back there and buy one?
 
Well, I guess I'm about to learn SOMETHING. Never heard of a Remington-Rand factory outside the US or of High Standard making 1911s. Did you get to look at the guns in question?
 
Yeah, I did get a look at them. They are the GI-type, and appear to be well made, judging by the fit and finish. He may have said that the factory in the phillipines used factory machines purchased from Remington Rand. Sorry about the misunderstanding. :eek:
 
Go Get ONe

Brownsfan, for goodness sake, go back to the Fayetteville show tomorrow and get one so you you can tell us more about them. I mean, that is your DUTY to keep us informed. And we want pictures too. :D
 
If it is of GI configuration, I see no advantage over the springfield GI model. which comes in at a retail price at the same point ($399) Same goes for the Kahr/Auto Ordnance.

Lifetime warranty in the springfield makes them pretty attractive...
 
This guy also told me RIA were substandard. Made out of weak steel.

He had a table full of Taurus handguns also. Claimed he had nothing but problems with them and they rarely shot more them 1500 rounds before having to go back to the factory for a complete rebuild. Said he lost money on every Taurus he sold because he had to send them back so many times.

He had a SA MC Operator I was looking at yesterday. Went back today to check it out. He had sold it. Then told me I was better off not buying it because it was not mil-spec. Took special non-standard parts in it. He did try to sell me the TRP Operator though. Claimed it was great and SA used only the best parts in it.

But he was pushing the Hi-Standards
 
>> But he was pushing the Hi-Standards <<

He sure was ... :scrutiny:

Remington Rand was a government contractor that made guns during World War Two. After the war they went out of the pistol business and the machinery - which belonged to Uncle Sam - was for the most part shipped to Brazil. The old/original Hi-Standard company did make .45 barrels, but not complete guns. I could go on about this guy, but my time is too valuable. If you believe one word about what he said I have some desert property for sale ... :D
 
Double Maduro, yeah, that GunsAmerica link is it!

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"If it is of GI configuration, I see no advantage over the springfield GI model."

At the same gun show, the SA GI was going for $450.
 
Quote:
"Pleaes don't confuse the original Connecticut High Standard company with the Texas "High Standard" operation."

So what's the difference? Inquiring minds want to know. :confused:
 
Browns Fan:

The original company made some very high-quality match grade handguns. But in 1984 they went out of business. The assets of the company, including the name and trademarks were bought up by others, who so far haven't produced a product that equals those made by their namesake. Of course consumers that didn't or don't know they are dealing with a company that hasn't lived up to its name have been or are being gyped.

The individual you met at the gun show fed you a line of .... :uhoh:

It may be said that the cheaper the product, the more outlandish the advertisements. Bottom-dollar copies of quality guns seldom give good service, at least for long. This applies to .22's as well as .45's. Ya' pay your money and the get what you've got coming.

As a number of posters have been trying to tell you, "there is no such thing as a free lunch ... "
 
And if its made by Armscor

Why not buy an Armscor or RIA which seem to have good customer service.

May have been the same dealer at Raleigh yesterday; I stopped at a table, picked up a High Standard and before I could say anything the guy said it was a "teriffic gun, not like the POS Colts that wern't worth having". I told him he was full of crap and walked off without looking at anything else he had.
 
I just encountered one of these new 1911's at a Cabelas store yesterday. Didn't know they existed but was very impressed by the fit and workmanship. Sticker price was $369 and Cabelas is always high on their prices.
I'm considering getting one if I can find it cheaper. :)
 
The cheapest I've seen a SA GI new is $376.96 from Buds Gunshop. Adding $20 for FFL fee and $25 for shipping you're still lookin at $430. I figured the $400 I paid for a used SA GI w/ aftermarket hammer, trigger, thumb safety, and sights was a decent deal. The SA GIs are getting common so I'd look for a used one. Of course I prefer to buy used and let someone else eat the new to used depriciation. If you want a low priced 1911 http://www.sarcoinc.com/rockislands-new.html has the Rock Islands for $299.50. If your dealer charges the standard $20 fee, and you add $15 (sarco will ship USPS 2-3 priority mail) you're lookin at $335 for whats reported to be a good little GI type 1911.
 
The Nov/Dec issue of American Handgunner has an interesting article comparing the Springfield Armory model to the High Standard model. Based on the article, I would buy the High Standard. Its cheaper, and has a lowered ejection port already.
 
High Standard had a table at Camp Perry when I was out there in July. Had some officers size that said prototype on them for 350. Almost snagged one, but chickend out.

Mike
 
Their "GI" model is made by RIA. Better looking IMHO.

I understand their "other" models, higher priced, are "made" in this country.
What that means, I have no idea or experience with them.

They need to differentiate their product lines better if they want to sell low and highend models under the same brand name. That's a "novice" marketing error.
 
A gun shop here had the R.I.A. and the High Standard side by side. They looked exactly the same except the name and the High Standard had checkering on the grips. One other thing they both had was made in the Philippines on the frame in front of the trigger gaurd.
 
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