History Channel's "Top Shot" on Sunday night

[9mmepiphany]

Why didn't they present Lead Dispenser as a SASS Champion. Why the corny "Speed Shooting Champion" and why not introduce him with his shooting alias?

i'm pretty sure the SASS would require payment for using their name...that's why they exist, they are a prime example of successful marketing in the shooting sports. they license and charge for everything having to do with their sport

Adam continued to reveal himself as a total jerk. The way things are being edited and presented, he'll probably end up winning or at least be in the "finals."

He will, they want us to HATE him. It is calculated that way to get controversy and viewership up. Get emotionally vested in the show and you'll watch.

you could see they had him tabbed to be the "villain" from the beginning. in his audition tape he called himself and "American Hero"...talk about ego

Cowboy didn't "Cowboy Up" and looked like a tool doing it.

i was a bit surprised that Denny's accepting responsibility for letting the team down consisted of, "If you vote me into the elimination, I won't hold it against you".

and now Adam is playing with Denny's mind over it...Denny really isn't a very strong member and the Red team isn't as mentally strong as the Blue team.

 

[mesinge2]

That 'shooting gallery' was cool!

I have just got to do that!

Even with the drama this was the best episode yet.

I really want Adam gone. Also, I was surprised that Kelly a 'rifle shooter' did so well with the elimination challenge (although it should have been Denny v Kelly).

 

[lebowski]

Andre didn't flinch, he had a negligent discharge. His finger was on the trigger when he thumbed the hammer back. That's why he looked surprised, he was.

If I was locked in that house, me and Adam would have to fight. All that "rat fink" nonsense got old quick!

Oh, he flinched. A flinch is a flinch, regardless of what brings it on. If it was caused by a ND, that just makes it worse.

 

[Gouranga]

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Originally Posted by CraigC View Post
Andre didn't flinch, he had a negligent discharge. His finger was on the trigger when he thumbed the hammer back. That's why he looked surprised, he was.

If I was locked in that house, me and Adam would have to fight. All that "rat fink" nonsense got old quick!

Oh, he flinched. A flinch is a flinch, regardless of what brings it on. If it was caused by a ND, that just makes it worse.

It was just weird. I think he got thrown off cause the dude before him loaded the weapon for him, told him to just go ahead, he pulled the hammer back and "BAM!". It looked like it was not even remotely on target. Shocked me a bit.

I think the big thing with the challenge was the time it put on them. Blue IMO had the advantage cause they did not have a standard to hit, they set it. Red had the time set, they had pressure on more especially after the cowboy dude. it is amazing how pressure makes good shooters not so good.

 

[mesinge2]

My main beef last night was that I couldn't believe that they didn't know how to line up the sights.
They had to be told that the front blade should not be too high over the rear notch. WHAT?!

How do you shoot and not know that. That's not specific to the Colt, its specific to firearms!

 

[Owen]

In kelly's defense, he's probably only ever shot guns with peep sights and optics before he got there. Andre should have known better, but doesn't the SAA have a smaller notch in the gutter, like a fixed sight S&W? That could make it easy for the front sight to inch up.

 

[mesinge2]

but doesn't the SAA have a smaller notch in the gutter, like a fixed sight S&W? That could make it easy for the front sight to inch up.

True, but when the instructor told him he was surprised that the sight should be lower.

 

[CraigC]

Oh, he flinched. A flinch is a flinch, regardless of what brings it on. If it was caused by a ND, that just makes it worse.

If it happens after the discharge, it ain't a flinch. Flinching is anticipation, there was no anticipation because he did not realize it was gonna go off. Big difference.

 

[lebowski]

If it happens after the discharge, it ain't a flinch. Flinching is anticipation, there was no anticipation because he did not realize it was gonna go off. Big difference.

It's a flinch dude. If the gun goes off and you flinch, you flinched, ND or not. If it's because your 8 year old brother claps in front of your face, it's still a flinch.

flinch (flnch)
intr.v. flinched, flinch·ing, flinch·es
1. To start or wince involuntarily, as from surprise or pain


If it was an ND, he was surprised the gun fired, it's still a flinch.



Regardless of the cause, my point was he looked like someone who had never handled a gun before. That it was the result of an ND doesn't make it any better.

 

[CraigC]

A flinch in the general sense yes. In this context, accurate shooting, not a flinch in that he was NOT anticipating recoil. If he had flinched because he was anticipating the shot, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't be a Marine sniper and wouldn't be on the show.

No, it doesn't make it any better but it was an honest mistake. Like bump-firing an automatic. I am primarily a single action revolver shooter. I have over two dozen of them and shoot them nearly every day. Every once in a while I'll do exactly what he did and act just as surprised. It's not a flinch in the technical sense in that I'm not anticipating recoil. It's surprise because the sixgun was not supposed to go off and yes, it's entirely my fault but that doesn't make me a neophyte. Just means I got a little too frisky on the trigger. But whatever, I'm so tired of arguing over every stupid little thing.

 

[9mmepiphany]

posted by CraigC
I am primarily a single action revolver shooter. I have over two dozen of them and shoot them nearly every day

a quick question...i've never heard of pushing against the recoil sheild with the left thumb, it that pretty common? and shooting with your pinky under the buttframe?

thanks

 

[CraigC]

a quick question...i've never heard of pushing against the recoil sheild with the left thumb, it that pretty common? and shooting with your pinky under the buttframe?

Yep, I've always tucked my pinky under on all 'short' grip frames like the SAA, `51 Navy, Ruger XR3 and XR3-RED. There's plenty of room on Colt 1860's, Colt Bisleys, Ruger Bisleys and Super Blackhawks.

I learned to rest my thumb against the recoil shield from a pistolero down in Texas. Not to actually push but just to rest it there for a little added stability. You just wanna be sure it's in a position where it will just slide off during recoil, rather than peel your thumbnail off with the rear edge of the cylinder.

 

[skifast]

I don't have a TV. I watch Top Shot on History.com. I skip through all the drama and just watch the shooting.

 

[JoeMal]

The fact that Andrew went home because he didn't know how to play poker is bull IMO

The game is about shooting, not poker. Kelly missed 2 targets, he should have went home. What a dumb idea for a challenge

 

[burley]

Denny made that, " won't hold it against you", statement the way he did because he's that kind of man. A good guy that is not so egotistical that he would order others to do what he says. In his own way, that's what he said.

 

[Unistat]

The fact that Andrew went home because he didn't know how to play poker is bull IMO

The game is about shooting, not poker. Kelly missed 2 targets, he should have went home. What a dumb idea for a challenge

I disagree, it added an element of strategy. Shoot for your own hand or block your opponant's. On the tie breaker, Kelly was able to block and made very hard for Andrew to get a good hand. The fact that Andrew didn't know what would be the best poker hand available to him after the block affected the outcome very little, imo.

 

[Zeke/PA]

Real CRAP show.
I would rather watch a Soap Opra1

 

[mcdonl]

I just think it is awesome that there is a show, in prime time that turns new people onto shooting. Zeke, really? A Soap Opra... thats disappointing but to each his own. I prefer to watch a show about firearms or shooting, and if I can do so with my wife and kids and have us ALL enjoy it I find it a win-win.

Sure, the extra drama that they throw in there to satisfy the "rest" of the viewers is not my cup of tea, but do you see shows like Survivor or Big Brother involving the shooting sports to try and win us over to watching those shows? No, and I will never watch them... but because The History Channel added the element of "elimination" and drama to a show about competitive shooting a whole new group of men, women and children are now exposed to firearms, which in turn means they are exposed to the fact that not all firearms and guns are in the hands of criminals, and that some very responsible and likable people shoot guns.

I like the show, and I look forward to the next episode.

 

[Dentite]

Crap show? Hardly IMO.

I thought this last episode was cool. Who wouldn't want to try that shooting gallery? Compare this show with any other "elimination" type show and I think you'll find that although there are some jerks, most of the participants are quite professional and courteous.

I think the drama is a little overcooked, I'd love to see more shooting, more history about each firearm, could do without the "hard-guy" host, the long bows, etc.

But overall it's a show about shooting and marksmanship. Responsible and safe use of firearms, etc.

I don't think it's a stretch that someone that might be on the fence about 2nd amendment rights due to exposure of mainstream media might actually see a show like this and gain a better appreciation of how firearms can be used by law abiding citizens for recreation, protection, etc. It's about the big picture here IMO.

The people that do nothing but complain about the show have to be the type of people that do nothing but complain about most things.

Next episode looks interesting as well.

 

[speaksoftly]

Responsible and safe use of firearms, etc.

Most of the time haha.

 

[PovRayMan]

http://cheaperthandirt.com/blog/?p=3416

Denny Chapman was interviewed by Cheaper Than Dirt and this part jumped out at me...

Going into the show, did you do any special training? You’re going to get a kick out of my answer. Here it comes. {laughs} I hadn’t shot live ammo in about 10 years before I went on the show. I literally hadn’t shot anything other than a little bit of .22 rimfire just fooling around.

 

[Mal H]

I hadn’t shot live ammo in about 10 years before I went on the show.

Wow! So much for being dedicated to the shooting sports. That explains a lot about the shooting gallery failure, and a little about his braggadocio attitude before the shoot. Not good.

 

[JoeMal]

Going into the show, did you do any special training? You’re going to get a kick out of my answer. Here it comes. {laughs} I hadn’t shot live ammo in about 10 years before I went on the show. I literally hadn’t shot anything other than a little bit of .22 rimfire just fooling around.

That blows my mind...seriously........how the hell did they find that guy?

 

[Jim Watson]

High profile in Cowboy Mounted. Which comprises popping baloons with the muzzle flash of blanks. As he said, it is about 75% riding.

 

[Kingofthehill]

Going into the show, did you do any special training? You’re going to get a kick out of my answer. Here it comes. {laughs} I hadn’t shot live ammo in about 10 years before I went on the show. I literally hadn’t shot anything other than a little bit of .22 rimfire just fooling around.

wow... it doesn't get more lame than that.