History Channel's "Top Shot" on Sunday night

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Justin said:
No,no,no, Jim, that's not how posting things on internet forums works! You're supposed to talk about how you were disappointed in all of their shooting ability, and that you could have easily beaten every single one of them with a Daisy Red Ryder BB gun, while blindfolded and riding a yak suffering from distemper.

Geeze.

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I've found this is only possible with an Austrian yak. Otherwise each step will always throw your rounds to the right.
 
I don't think Jim's half of the challenge was fair.
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Yeah, I noticed that too when they showed the replay. I went back and watched it a few more times and it doesn't look like he could have done anything about it.

That elimination challenge looked brutal to me. I'd have trouble focusing on which target I was supposed to shoot, much less actually hitting what I thought I was supposed to be aiming at. It was pretty impressive that both of them went 3 for 3.
 
You people are evil. I usually fight watching any type of reality TV except Dancing w/ the Stars, and I just watch the dance on that. Thank God for DVRs. But, all of your incessant chatting about this, and I taped the first 3 episodes last weekend. Just started the first one this afternoon, and now the afternoon it gone, and I can't wait to get episode 4. You reality TV pushers. Getting an innocent man hooked like this. You should be ashamed of yourselves you jerks ;)
 
I don't think Jim's half of the challenge was fair.
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I agree and thought the same thing after they showed the replay. The red and blue plates appeared to be swinging perfectly in sync, so no matter how long Jim waited, if he shot at one plate he was going to hit the plate behind it.
 
Caleb Giddings, who was there at the time Jim was shooting, says it's on the up and up.

I lean more towards this view. I know all too well how a camera angle can make things appear different than they really are.
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I don't know about that. I like Caleb, and im rooting for Him and Kelly but he said Jim could have made the shot because the steel backer would of stopped the round. Watching the episode again, there are holes right through the metal.

From what i could see, it really looks like jim was robbed on this elimination.

JOe
 
Overlapping swinging targets are not a fair match to begin with. You cannot synchronize them to give the same exposure to everybody. There is one outfit that showed at SHOT a two target IDPA/IPSC swinger with the carriers geared together to keep the same presentation every time, but I have never seen one on a range.

The luck factor is obviously part of the Survivor planning.
 
After Iain had been so cocky volunteering to go to the elimination against Jim I really wanted to see him get beat. I knew it wasn't likely but I would have considered it justice.
 
I dont get nearly as much trigger time as I want or need, so watching Top Shot is enjoyable. Granted, it's not pure skill like an olympic airgun match (I wonder where I could buy those on tape).

I'm glad Brad is here to take his lumps. Welcome to forums. Honestly, I thought the "whinning" was engineered drama, but if was real...wow. :) Like I tell my 8 year-old, excuses don't put steel on target. Now give me 20. (It's their mom's job to cuddle 'em, it's my job to make shooters out of them.)

Best part of anything related to the show? Justin's analogy of the Simpson's Comic Book guy. Awesome.
 
I thought that the shooting was very impressive. I probably could have pulled off the initial challenge because I am pretty good at memory kind of games but the elimination challenge would have killed me. Not only is it difficult to hit a moving target but there is a timing side to it as well. I would have been lucky to hit one.
 
I don't think Jim's half of the challenge was fair. Unless they had some form of mechanical interference that would disrupt or change the period of the individual pendulums which I couldn't spot, then physics won that one. With the same length pendulum, each one had the same cycle time, so the blue plate had to be behind the red plate through most of the challenge. That should have been accounted for and not allowed to happen.
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Thats how I seen it too. The epitome here is that Jim was screwed.
 
At least this takes the focus off the Red Team guy who only shot 5 times, cuz that's all he needed. WHAT?!!? That's dumb. Shoot your rounds and don't leave room for error. That ticked me off. What is he wasn't perfect and shot some blue plates with his 5 rounds. Could have been bad. Don't leave anything for chance.
 
Yea - I thought it was funny that Jim almost beat that tool Ian.
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I don’t know either shooter, but you must remember what you see is edited. I have been ignoring the non shooting stuff precisely because I know these “real life” shows are edited to create “good guys” and “bad guys”.

These shows are looking for the next Herb Stempel, a personality so strong and repulsive, that ratings spiked when audiences tuned in to see if good guy Van Doren could eliminate bad guy Herb Stempel. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty_One_(game_show)

TV programs are entertainment, they are edited to create compulsive behaviors in people. If you believe one guy is a tool and the other is an angel, then you allowed the producers of the show to open the top of your skull and mess with your mind.

If you ever get to met these people in real life, if is quite possible your opinion of them would be different.
 
How about that TZ99 they were shooting? I had never seen/heard of it before but really liked the looks of it. Anyone shot one? Anyone OWN one? I understand it has some history behind it and found that particularly interesting as well.
 
the TZ99 is junk. Its a poor knockoff of the p226... the fact that it comes from south africa is enough to make me never want to put one in my hands and pull the trigger.

JOe
 
At least this takes the focus off the Red Team guy who only shot 5 times, cuz that's all he needed. WHAT?!!? That's dumb.
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At first I thought it was cocky and dumb, also. But, after thinking about it a little, I think he was very smart to do it that way. All he had to do was memorize the location of 4 plates to guarantee a win, not all of them which could have boggled his memory. He added a 5th just in case he hit a wrong plate. By stopping when he did he avoided any additional penalties. Pretty smart in my opinion.
 
Unless the producers forced Ian to volunteer for the challenge I still think he's a tool. Who preyed on someone he perceieved to be a weak shot. You're right I don't know him I'm going strictly on his actions not what the producers edit in or out. If it was Blake or JJ I highly doubt we would have seen him be so quick to volunteer. That's weak in my eyes -
 
I am told by someone in the know that next week things start to get a little crazy.

That's good. Because so far, to the average viewer, the shooting has been under-represented; the actual competition so so; and the 'Survivor' sub plots a bit tepid.

We'll see.
 
the TZ99 is junk. Its a poor knockoff of the p226... the fact that it comes from south africa is enough to make me never want to put one in my hands and pull the trigger.

JOe
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So you're making a negative observation of the weapon without even using it yourself? Don't you think that's a little...wrong?

So what if it's a 'knockoff'? Does that mean it's a bad gun? Do you think a nationally televised TV show would use a 'junk' gun if it were really so? And why judge South Africa that way? Not trying to take shots at you but your comment seemed a little erratic considering you've never handled the gun.


Does anyone you know have experience with it? I'm just curious why you think it's junk.
 
That's good. Because so far, to the average viewer, the shooting has been under-represented
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Agreed. I'm somewhat disappointed with the minimal amount of shooting that actually takes place. At least it seems that way.
 
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