HK .45's Any opinions??
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BerettaNut92
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I like them but they're a tad big for my skunky-sized paws.
Maybe we can arrange a meeting with 10-ring and we can bust caps. He has a fullsize and expert.
Maybe we can arrange a meeting with 10-ring and we can bust caps. He has a fullsize and expert.
Black Snowman
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I've heard 2nd hand that the HK USP will eat up .45 Super just as easily as .45 ACP and .45 +P but HK recommends you change the recoil spring more often. That makes the guns a lot more reasonably priced in the market because sundenly you're comparing it to .45 Supers and not other .45 ACPs and it becomes really compedatively priced.
I want one. Especially if I can get a longer barrel. One day I might even shell out for a MK 23 Mod 0. I had a USP 40C and I just thought it was too big for a .40 compact. If I get a "normal" sized 40 I want it slimmer. I traded it tward a rifle. I'm thinking of getting a CZ-40 to replace it's "role" since they're quite a good deal right now.
I want one. Especially if I can get a longer barrel. One day I might even shell out for a MK 23 Mod 0. I had a USP 40C and I just thought it was too big for a .40 compact. If I get a "normal" sized 40 I want it slimmer. I traded it tward a rifle. I'm thinking of getting a CZ-40 to replace it's "role" since they're quite a good deal right now.
Greg L
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I carry a full sized most every day. With the right gear (& body 
) it isn't that much of an effort to do so. As far as shooting it goes, it is more accurate than I am & has never jammed on me.
Greg
) it isn't that much of an effort to do so. As far as shooting it goes, it is more accurate than I am & has never jammed on me.Greg
I have both a full size and compact USP in 45ACP. I have the compact for daily carry in a Sparks Versa Max II. It carries great. I shot the compact through a shooting school. It only hiccuped so far, when it was intended to with dummy rounds! I think for a stock gun you will not find a more accurate gun, well save the S&W 625 which I have an affinity for!
Buy, one or the other or both! Enjoy! Yeah the magazines can be spendy!
But, check Ebay for them! And, the Hi-Cap ones that do not exist have gotten lower priced of late they can be had 75 dollar range! Then again you can get 2-10 rounders for that! STAY AWAY FROM PROMAGS!
Buy, one or the other or both! Enjoy! Yeah the magazines can be spendy!
But, check Ebay for them! And, the Hi-Cap ones that do not exist have gotten lower priced of late they can be had 75 dollar range! Then again you can get 2-10 rounders for that! STAY AWAY FROM PROMAGS!
Black Snowman
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I've fired two used HKs an their triggers were pretty good. I know at least one of them had work though, it was an IDPA compeditor's gun. I think if the trigger is bad a simple buff and fluff would take care of that. If you're looking for an uber-light 1911 custom trigger feel it's not gonna happen though.
I have a fullsize .45 (and just picked up a compact .357)
I would reccomend the full size, but it does have a big grip. It is accurate, and to some recoils less. I don't notice much of a differenceon the recoil on my 1911's vs the USP, but a buddy of mine thought it was a lot less with the USP.
The smoothness of the DA triggers is a weak point, I think that is true with all USP's. I had a trigger job done on mine, and it was an improvement, but it's still not great. But, I don't think I've ever felt a good DA trigger on a polymer pistol. (Real DA, not Glock types, etc...)
My USPf .45 is my HD gun, so I really like the idea of a DA first shot, and store the gun hammer down. I am going to practice a lot with my compact, and see if the DA/SA trigger hampers my shooting. If it does, I may get the LEM trigger for it.
I really like the cocked and locked carry option with these pistols. The only other ones like this are Taurus, CZ, and CZ clones.
I would reccomend the full size, but it does have a big grip. It is accurate, and to some recoils less. I don't notice much of a differenceon the recoil on my 1911's vs the USP, but a buddy of mine thought it was a lot less with the USP.
The smoothness of the DA triggers is a weak point, I think that is true with all USP's. I had a trigger job done on mine, and it was an improvement, but it's still not great. But, I don't think I've ever felt a good DA trigger on a polymer pistol. (Real DA, not Glock types, etc...)
My USPf .45 is my HD gun, so I really like the idea of a DA first shot, and store the gun hammer down. I am going to practice a lot with my compact, and see if the DA/SA trigger hampers my shooting. If it does, I may get the LEM trigger for it.
I really like the cocked and locked carry option with these pistols. The only other ones like this are Taurus, CZ, and CZ clones.
Ala Dan
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Comments and Opinions Regarding H&K USP's
Hello!
For a short time, I owned a previously owned H&K USP-F
in .45 ACP. I found that the USP's are very well made
polymer frame semi-auto's. This "pistol" is a very large
weapon indeed; and certainly one I would not want to
CCW. My H&K was the "Variant-1" model, with all of
the controls functioning flawlessly. It would digest all
type's of ammunition, without a hiccup. Like with Glock's,
handload's weren't recommended; but I tried them any
way, using hard cast LSWC type bullet's. Here again, I
never experienced any problems. Accuracy was on par
for most "combat handguns"; but was slightly out
performed by my 1995 West German production SIG-
SAUER P220A. Like I said, RELIABILITY was not
a problem; I just preferred the slimmer dimensions and
better accuracy of the .45 caliber SIG.
Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member
Hello!
For a short time, I owned a previously owned H&K USP-F
in .45 ACP. I found that the USP's are very well made
polymer frame semi-auto's. This "pistol" is a very large
weapon indeed; and certainly one I would not want to
CCW. My H&K was the "Variant-1" model, with all of
the controls functioning flawlessly. It would digest all
type's of ammunition, without a hiccup. Like with Glock's,
handload's weren't recommended; but I tried them any
way, using hard cast LSWC type bullet's. Here again, I
never experienced any problems. Accuracy was on par
for most "combat handguns"; but was slightly out
performed by my 1995 West German production SIG-
SAUER P220A. Like I said, RELIABILITY was not
a problem; I just preferred the slimmer dimensions and
better accuracy of the .45 caliber SIG.
Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member
RightIsRight
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I have a full size .45 USP (my first semi-auto).
I have almost 2000 rounds through it with virtually no problems at all. It did have 2 failure-to-fires though. Both were from the same WallyWorld winchester 100 round box, so I don't think the gun was the problem.
I have shot over 1500 rounds of cheapie ammo of all different types (MFS (Hungarian), MagTech, Fiocchi, PMC etc.) and about 400 rounds of premium stuff (HydraShoks, CorBons, etc) w/ nary a hiccup.
The grip is large, but I have very large hands, so it fits me well.
I have almost 2000 rounds through it with virtually no problems at all. It did have 2 failure-to-fires though. Both were from the same WallyWorld winchester 100 round box, so I don't think the gun was the problem.
I have shot over 1500 rounds of cheapie ammo of all different types (MFS (Hungarian), MagTech, Fiocchi, PMC etc.) and about 400 rounds of premium stuff (HydraShoks, CorBons, etc) w/ nary a hiccup.
The grip is large, but I have very large hands, so it fits me well.
10-Ring
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I have had my USP 45 for almost 4 years now and couldn't be happier w/ it. All my USPs (I have 4) have very smooth triggers & they even got smoother w/ use. I haven't come across a USP that didn't have a smooth trigger...heavy maybe, but smooth none the less
Almost 25k rounds and counting & not a single problem!
Almost 25k rounds and counting & not a single problem!
BerettaNut92
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Lousy trigger? Are you guys shooting that thing in double action? 
My first USP was a 40F. Good gun.
Then I got the itch for a 45F. Great gun.
The grip of the 45F is significantly larger than those of the 9 and 40, so make sure you handle one first. Don't underestimate this issue, make very sure you can get a good grip on the gun.
40 was snappy when shooting, 45's recoil is well controlled and follow-ups are fast.
45 is built like a tank, digesting everything from light target ammo to the 45 Super that I've started loading (230gr JHP at 1100fps from a light autoloader is certain to get your attention ). All from a box-stock gun. Need to work on curing a flinch? Load a mag with five rounds of super and mix in five light bullseye rounds. Gun will load fire and eject every one, you'll see if you have a flinch and will wonder if there's another gun in the world that can do that.
I have just over 500 rounds of 45 Super through mine, as well as ~20K rounds of mixed ball, target and +P ammo through it, still as tight as day 1.
Trigger. Fair when new, good once you break the gun in (and great once Teddy Jacobsen works on it). Not as crisp as a nice 1911's, and the DA does stack (can you say cocked and locked?). But once you break it in and get used to the long reset, it's a nice, controllable combat trigger.
Then I got the itch for a 45F. Great gun.
The grip of the 45F is significantly larger than those of the 9 and 40, so make sure you handle one first. Don't underestimate this issue, make very sure you can get a good grip on the gun.
40 was snappy when shooting, 45's recoil is well controlled and follow-ups are fast.
45 is built like a tank, digesting everything from light target ammo to the 45 Super that I've started loading (230gr JHP at 1100fps from a light autoloader is certain to get your attention
). All from a box-stock gun. Need to work on curing a flinch? Load a mag with five rounds of super and mix in five light bullseye rounds. Gun will load fire and eject every one, you'll see if you have a flinch and will wonder if there's another gun in the world that can do that.I have just over 500 rounds of 45 Super through mine, as well as ~20K rounds of mixed ball, target and +P ammo through it, still as tight as day 1.
Trigger. Fair when new, good once you break the gun in (and great once Teddy Jacobsen works on it). Not as crisp as a nice 1911's, and the DA does stack (can you say cocked and locked?). But once you break it in and get used to the long reset, it's a nice, controllable combat trigger.
Ringer
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I have about 500 rounds through my .45f without a glitch. I like the size, fits my medium to large size hands well. Trigger suits me fine and the gun is plenty accurate for me. Added Mepro night sights and has been my primary HD gun of late. My only gripe/issue is the mag release. While I like it when I'm used to it after shooting my other semi-autos I tend to reach with my thumb instead of my index finger. As much as I like the gun I'm thinking of selling it for this reason. If you already had the .40 then you are familiar with this already.
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