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HK P30L: What do we know?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Corpral_Agarn, Nov 5, 2018.

  1. Corpral_Agarn

    Corpral_Agarn Member

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    Hello All,

    My brother is looking at purchasing an HK P30L

    What does THR know about the pistol?

    Anybody own one?

    Thanks!
     
  2. tarosean

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    Had one... It worked 100% of the time. Just never grew on me.
    Mag release was intuitive. Never had an issue transitioning to a paddle with the few HK's Ive owned. Trigger sucked (V1) as it felt like pulling 3 miles down a gravel road.
    So It ended up going bye bye. Would I buy another? No.. only because I have grown more and more picky over the years. might be okay for a tackle box or truck gun though..
     
  3. cslinger

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  4. Corpral_Agarn

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    Hey thanks for reply.

    I am looking over that article right now.
     
  5. Chuck R.

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    I've got a P30L.

    Started out as a V3 (DA/SA) that I then converted to V0 (Light LEM maintaining the spurred hammer and de-cock). I then sent it off to Lazy Wolf Guns for a trigger reset reduction package.

    I've shot it in multiple 400+ rd a day classes. The gun is extremely reliable and pretty accurate for an off the shelf gun. I think the P30L shoots softer than the P30 as it has a recoil reduction "system": P30L

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    P30:
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    Plus it's heavier due to the slide/barrel length
     
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  6. cfullgraf

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    I have a P30SK V3, the compact version of the P30L. I like it although the paddle magazine release has been difficult to adapt to. It's a "teaching an old dog new tricks" thing for me.

    It is my primary defense pistol. I shoot a DA/SA pistol just fine and I do not like having potential energy stored in the trigger mechanism when carrying.
     
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  7. 460Shooter

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    I carry a P30SK also. The light LEM trigger is the only way to buy a hammer fired HK in my opinion.

    Good shooter. Reliable.
     
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  8. Winkman822

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    I have a P30L in V1 Light LEM trigger configuration with night sights. I really dig the gun. It shoots very well, I prefer the paddle mag releases (hence my disdain for the newly released VP 9-B), the ergonomics are outstanding and very customizable (though I keep the standard medium side panels and back strap), and the gun is easy enough to carry if you're already used to carrying something like a P226, Glock 17, or full size M&P. Having said that, I stopped carrying the gun about a year ago as I was finding that the grip would chafe the daylights out of my side when carried against bare skin during the warmer months.

    Now for a couple of not so hot things about it, if you're used to a striker fired gun, it will have a learning curve with respect to length of the initial trigger press and the distance to trigger reset. The P30L was bought as a lighter weight daily carry gun to take the place of my Sig P226 with an SRT trigger. I found that it took a good few hundred rounds to get accustomed to the trigger to the point I wasn't short stroking on follow up shots and was comfortable to carry the gun. Price is a downside. Let's face it, HK pistols are a constant reminder that being cash strapped can suck. The gun is expensive, replacement/spare parts are expensive, and magazines are expensive (generally between $45 and $50 for the P30/VP). Next downside, accessories (holsters, etc.) aren't as widely available for the P30L. Final downside, is the goofy trough in the bottom of the trigger guard. Personally, I have not had issues with it rubbing a blister into my trigger finger, nor have I had issues with a glove catching in it, but there are reports of others who have had this issue.

    At the end of the day, the negatives that I have listed are nit picky niggles, a few of which will iron themselves out with some practice with the gun. If the gun is being purchased as a range gun and carry isn't in the foreseeable future, go for it.
     
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  9. 460Shooter

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    I agree on the holster thing. I searched high and low for a holster I wanted for my HK45. I found out Safariland made a Level II holster for it with the hood thumb release deal. I happened to find one on Amazon, and was planning to buy it. One day I checked and for some reason the price had dropped from like $110 down to $40. Someone screwed up, because I immediately ordered it, and within three hours the price went back up to $110. The holster showed up and I'm happy. However, that holster is only used for open carry day hiking.

    For my P30SK and VP9 I bought Stealth Gear Flex holsters. Also expensive, but they seem worth it to me. The P30L is not a common carry gun, so support outside of law enforcement type accessories does seem limited.

    The trigger trough thing is extremely irritating to me. I love my HK 45 and the way it shoots, but it has a traditional SA/DA trigger. The pull is smooth but heavy as tarosean mentioned. Single action is acceptable for a defense gun. Unfortunately if I put more than 150 rounds through mine, my trigger finger is bleeding.

    What I've noticed is that the VP9 and LEM trigger on my P30SK do not do this to me. I have boney fingers and not the firmest grip, so I believe my trigger finger tends to migrate during the press/pull. The much lighter triggers on the VP and LEM triggers tend to allow me to keep my finger where it should be. I will likely convert my HK45 to a LEM trigger in the future. IT's so easy to stage I don't feel I'd be losing any of the SA benefits.
     
  10. Chuck R.

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    The bolded was (is) a major downside for me also. I came from 1911's, made my initial foray into polymer with Walther PPQs and S&W M&Ps. All are basically short reset guns. The reset on the P series HKs is stupid long. IF you shoot multiple pistols, it can cause problems. I disliked it so much I had both of my P series modified with reset reduction packages by a competent smith. That adds about $350 to the base cost of the pistol.
     
  11. sigarms228

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    I have a P30L V3 DA/SA that I bought new in 2013 and just love it. One of my top favorite 9MM pistols. Great shooter and never a problem. I highly recommend trying one out as they are a steal at today's prices. I was so impressed with it I bought a P30SK LEM too for CCW.

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  12. CoalTrain49

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    I think Batman carries one.:D
     
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  13. cslinger

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    I glanced at your target picture and I saw 25 and my brain said 25 yards and was wavering back and forth between holy bejezzzus and I’m calling BS on this one. :)

    I was leaning towards giving you the benefit of the doubt. ;)

    Still fantastic shooting at 7 yards.
     
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  14. JTQ

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    Batman has a "no guns" policy.

     
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    Unless he mounts it on his vehicles lol.

    Back to the OP, I’ve been contemplating getting a p30L in 40 as of late. I’ve shot some but never owned one. Ergonomics seem to be about as good as you can get. All the p30’s I’ve fired have been da/sa (v3 I think) and the da trigger as stated above is pretty bad. I dry fired a light lem trigger version just last weekend and it’s leaps and bounds better than the da/sa triggers they offer imho. It’s sort of like the walther creed trigger but with a shorter reset and a heavy double strike capability if the primer doesn’t ignite. It has a reasonably long and light take up and a crisp break at the wall. Also reminds me of the da mode on the lionheart pistols. If I’m buying a hk it’s gonna be Light Lem for now on. Lastly, the build quality on the p30’s is probably the best of any polymer pistol in my opinion, if that sort of thing matters to you guys
     
  16. sota

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    https://pistol-training.com/archives/2668
    almost 92,000 rounds through a single gun, and even when technically "broken" it still ran fine until you got it stupid hot.
    that's part of the reason I own 3.
     
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  17. Corpral_Agarn

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    This thread has been more helpful than I would have hoped!

    Thanks all!

    Keep the info coming if you have it, please.

    Thanks!
     
  18. sigarms228

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    Two easy spring changes will make a remarkable difference in DA trigger quality on the P30L.. A Wolff 10LB spring or Lazy Wolf 11 LB spring and the HK lighter FPBS MPN: 209296. After about 500 rounds I did that on my P30L and the DA trigger pull is sweet and no stacking at about 8.5 LBs. As always a couple hundred rounds should be tested after a hammer spring change but mine as been no problem with 1000 plus rounds since with a variety of ammo.

    https://www.hkparts.net/shop/pc/HK-Reduced-Power-Hammer-Spring-11-lb-198p18147.htm

    https://www.hkparts.net/shop/pc/Firing-Pin-Block-Spring-New-Style-Light-198p1955.htm

    https://www.gunsprings.com/HK - HECKLER & KOCH/USP/cID1/mID26/dID136#166 --- will work in P30/P30L also
     
  19. 460Shooter

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    Roger that.

    The factory luminescent sights need to be charged with a light. They fade relatively quickly.

    Factory night sights are only like another $100 and totally worth it.
     
  20. sota

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    Since mine were already v3 guns, I only need the light firing pin block spring to make a noticeable improvement on trigger feel, for DA or SA. Also, the best trigger job you can give one of these things, is to shoot the damn thing ALOT. There's a marked difference in feel between my 20k round count P30L and my friend's brand new P30L. Even if you just get into a regular program of dry fire (recommend snap caps) it'll help polish in the trigger wear surfaces.

    I also feel like, if it ever came to task where I've used it in a defensive situation, I don't have to explain any non-factory HK parts in the gun.
     
  21. Winkman822

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    The guns equipped with factory night sights also have the nice added benefit of coming with three magazines rather than the standard 2, so for about an extra $100.00 you get a set of night sights which would be about that if bought after the fact, and you get a second spare mag which on its own is going to run you anywhere from $45 to $50.
     
  22. 460Shooter

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    Hey that's right. I forgot about that.
     
  23. cslinger

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    Absolutely always search out the HK models with LE-A5 in their description / model number. Those are the night sight 3 mag models.
     
  24. Chuck R.

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    It depends on how you feel about the HK nightsights. Had 2 sets (HK45T & VP9), both have been replaced with Trijicons. I prefer a cleaner sight picture that the Trijicon HDs provide. My P30L & P2000 went from the HK stock sights to HDs as well. Not a fan of the 3 Dot sight picture.
     
  25. 98Redline

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    One other thing that can really help with the price is HKs 4 mag deal.
    They ran one late last year, buy a new P series gun and get 4 free 15 round mags.
     
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