Hoarding still going on

[X-Rap]

I'd ignore it

 

[RealGun]

Let's put this into context, since RealGun wants to make a big issue out of it. Poster rjbmjb posted that because he lives in New York State, he's not allowed by state law to order either ammunition, nor components on-line, unless they're delivered to a licensed dealer, who charges a fee to process and deliver said order. That adds exponentially to the price of anything ordered. RealGun's response was: "All that goes away when you stop trying to buy locally in small quantities." I merely pointed out that the poor guy is forced to buy locally, as state law doesn't allow him to order on-line, unless he goes through a dealer, incurring additional charges, etc. For some unknown reason, he took umbrage at this and made it an issue.

The fact is, not everyone is free to place large orders on-line, due to where they live, and California has just passed a law which prevents people living there from doing so, too. There may be other places where it's not allowed, also.

Now I'm done with this issue, and will reply to it no longer.

Hope this helps.

Fred

To be fair, the quote was "NY does not allow internet sales of ammo-" with no mention of restrictions of reloading supplies. Also in fairness, I am responding repeatedly to being edited for something that wasn't stated and that I didn't write. Seems like others need to make an issue here. Jeez!

 

[Nature Boy]

I've been hording these lately.

The containers are perfect for storing small batches of brass. The wife keeps bringing them to my loading bench and I probably have a stock of 20 or so. (can't throw them away, I might use them in the future)

Speaking of brass, I'm still digging in trash cans at the range for cases and hording those as well (even calibers I don't have a gun for......just in case I might get one in the future)

How's that for getting back on topic?

 

[Walkalong]

I'm still digging in trash cans at the range for cases and hording those as well (even calibers I don't have a gun for......just in case I might get one in the future)

Me too, might need it one day, or a friend might need it (Been there done that.).

Sometime between 94 and 2008, I bought 32 Lbs of SRB-118 cheap. It was great for .223 plinking ammo with 50 to 62 Gr bullets, did OK in .308, and would make other stuff go bang as well. (Sounds just about what one would need in a shortage, huh, something versatile.)

Anyway, my kids will be using up the last of it, and the last time I used it I loaded 500 rounds of 62 Gr FMJ (Bullets I bought around 30 years ago), for my nieces husband.

Like I have posted before, I started stocking up a little extra here and there in 94.

No such thing as hoarding to me. It's a free country and if folks here think people are hoarding because they bought 5000 bullets, or 10,000 .22, or 16 pounds of powder, have no idea how much some people buy at a time or have put back because they can afford to do so.

With any luck, we, and/or our kids, will be buying that stuff cheap one day as their kids sell it off.

 

[kingmt]

How is this thing still going? 5 pages because one guy thinks buying 7lb of powder is hoarding??

I can't remember the last time I willingly bought less than 7lbs of powder at a time. Maybe when the shop only has a pound or two, or in compliance with these silly purchase limits, but only buying 7lbs? A measly 7lbs of a magnum rifle powder isn't hoarding!!

No. Were up to 6 pages long because along with us you keep posting & keeping the thread alive.

I'm enjoying reading it tho.

 

[Hokie_PhD]

No. Were up to 6 pages long because along with us you keep posting & keeping the thread alive.

I'm enjoying reading it tho.

I'm with you. It is interesting.

I was just reading bout the riots at Berkley and NYU.

Not getting into politics, it's nice to see civil discussion here.

It's also nice to see how others look at hoarding vs having a reasonable stock.

As I posted previously, I don't see 7 lbs as hoarding if one is going to use it. If someone is just buying it up because it's there then I do.

What I didn't see though is a reply to my comment about rudeness.

IMHO, The guy's comment that he was going to send his buddy to get the remaining containers of powder raises the issue of rudeness to me.

I guess the question is while it's his right to have his friend buy that powder for him, should he?

Personally I don't see a simple answer. But if he's not going to use it before the store gets more then IMHO it's clearly hoarding if it keeps someone else from getting it who might need it and would use it.

On the other hand if he's going to use it fairly quickly especially if it's before the store gets more then it doesn't make sense.

In any case, it seems like the guy would have been better served to order that much online even with the hazmat unless it was some sort of killer price.

 

[jmorris]

In any case, it seems like the guy would have been better served to order that much online even with the hazmat unless it was some sort of killer price.

Didn't realize this was still going but now I have to wonder how many pages an open/shut thread can run.

What if he was hording the powder, like a squirrel with nuts before winter, and wanted to be "off the grid" so "the man" doesn't know that he fact that he has a few cans of powder?

 

[Hokie_PhD]

Didn't realize this was still going but now I have to wonder how many pages an open/shut thread can run.

What if he was hording the powder, like a squirrel with nuts before winter, and wanted to be "off the grid" so "the man" doesn't know that he fact that he has a few cans of powder?

good question.

So then is that hoarding?

And I'll respectfully disagree. I personally don't think it's an open/shut thread as I've raised a few questions that I didn't see answered/addressed.

 

[FROGO207]

You know the old saying"everyone has an opinion just like they have .............." Five plus pages proves this point.
I have always seen hoarding as someone saving something common that most people would discard. Saving the last 35 years of the local paper (adds and all) in your house. ALL the metal/glass/plastic containers from food you have consumed in the past 35 years. All the old clothes you have ever owned. A room full of .22 ammo and do not own a firearm. Possibly all four together!! Yeah now that IS hoarding. So as far as the reloading things go I do not believe I would call it hoarding unless you are spending funds on something reloading related and not able to buy food etc. Or if you can't move around in your house due to piles of "stuff" stacked from floor to ceiling. Or have a garage full of loaded ammo and NEVER shoot any of it. As stated some of us come from an age that buying ahead in bulk and reusing something we already have (brass casings/lead) are the best way to maximize the dollars spent on a hobby. As a bonus it insulates us from future supply disruptions as well.
FWIW no one that I have taught to reload over the last 35 years has even mentioned that I might be a hoarder because I have my brass/cast lead bullets, stored in many stacked 5 gallon buckets and several five pound containers of propellant/cartons of primers hanging around the reloading room. I will also gladly pay forward to them a "starting batch" of brass and the components we take to reload them in calibers they can use at the time I am teaching them. No, having what I plan on shooting up at current rates in components stocked ahead for at least five to eight years is NOT in any stretch of the imagination hoarding. I am just fortunate that at this point in my life I can afford the luxury of being able to do this both economically and space wise. Your mileage will definitely vary.

 

[wankerjake]

Anyone who doesn't stock up when they can and doesn't have the components they need is an idiot, and anyone that buys more than you is a hoarder.

It's just like driving. Anyone going slower than you is an idiot, and anyone driving faster than you is a maniac.

People

 

[jmorris]

So then is that hoarding?

And I'll respectfully disagree. I personally don't think it's an open/shut thread as I've raised a few questions that I didn't see answered/addressed.

It depends, by definition to "hoard" one needs to amass and hide or store away. There is nothing in the OP that would indicate what was going to happen to that powder in the near or distant future. The fact that you or I can't answer that question is pretty much the end of argument without unfounded speculation.

It would be like me going to the store today and buying a half dozen cases of different beer, a brisket, few chickens bags of chips etc. and someone assuming I was going to go home and bury it in a sealed container in the yard.
Others might think I am going to be a really full drunk guy. While a few might make the assumption that I am going to be entertaining a number of people in the near future.

Point is no one would know unless they asked me and this entire thread is based off assumptions, that could all be false and that is one of the few facts we do know.