Holding a flashlight correctly

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The hard thing is finding a time/place to practice using a light. Trying it at home and dry firing just does not do it! We need the recoil and getting back on target. Even at the farm...gun shots after dark will bring questions.

Maybe I can squeeze in a few shots here and there without getting too much grief from the neighbors this year. We'll see.

Mark.

Not having access to a place you can actually shoot in low light doesn't mean you can't try the techniques.

Try the various holds out at home, in the dark, and see which one you like. Find out for yourself what feels comfortable, what illuminates well, and how you have to hold it so you can still operate your particular brand of light.


Then go to the range and shoot using those techniques. It doesn't matter if it's daylight for you to see if you can make the gun work using that technique. It's not ideal, but this doesn't have to be an either-or proposition. It's sure better than finding out that technique doesn't work for you at 2am with an intruder in the house.


I was exposed to a neat idea this week by our state Parole Board. One of the trainers there makes a habit of having two lights - one on his belt, and another a long lanyard around his neck. The belt light is useful for the many tasks we just simply need a light for. The one on his neck was useful for dangerous work. He explained that he didn't have to pocket or put the light back in the pouch when he had to do a immediately necessary task that required 2 hands, like reloading or clearing a stoppage. He could simply release the light, perform the task, and it was right there hanging from his neck waiting for him when he needed it again.
 
I do not know why I rec'd a PM with a link to this thread and asking me what method I use...

I was born in the mid 50s, and I started out with a C cell, chrome flashlight, with glass lens, and the switch had the intermittent feature, when I was wittle.

Looking at the links supplied, I "supposee" I used what was referred to a Marine/Embassy, Chapman, Ayoob, Harris, FBI and a neck lanyard was used, and used as well with these various methods.

Other methods, I do not see a reference to, and not shown on links.
One is from the waistline/hip, and one version incorporated lessons one drew and shot weak handed, as I was taught to do, and light is in strong hand.

That one for close range, stairs of level of threat, as hitting the VCA with the light, might be best, or having to retain a gun.
VCA is going for what the think is gun side, gun may or not be worn on gun side, instead weak.

This throws VCA off their game plan.
If the light does not stop threat, and stairs have led to more serious measure, stop the threat by shooting weak handed.

IF the light was attached by lanyard, neck or waist, drop it and "go time".

Employing a light and how to, not only was taught for what most think Police, Military use a Light for, also Fireman, Search and Rescue and other Professionals.
"Threats" are not always human.
Setting aside Fire, and other emergencies, there are some critters that threaten, and light techniques apply for them as well.

Intermittent switches are that valuable a feature to me, so are lanyards.
Then again I am older, never attended a formal "school" or 'training" facility.
I am not a cop, and never served in the Military.

My lessons were private, from Mentors. Mentors include ladies and gents, Police, Military, Fire, Search Rescue and others.
Not all were from the USA originally, and some spent time outside the US.
Some that were born and raised elsewhere, and either spend time in US often, and of those that later became US citizens.


Other questions...

Bear in mind: I was born in the last great decade and come up with-

-Veterans whom were not whole, with physical limitations.
-Polio Victims, whom also had physical limitations.

-Flashlights included Military Issue with 90* head, belt clip, and even red, and other color "discs" to fit over lens. Red as you recall, saves night vision, amongst other positives.

Boy Scout lights were also these olive drab 90* design, with belt clip and lens coverings.

-I was/am not a Cop.
In in work I am familiar with, blending is was a huge tool in the toolbox.
I do not want to give off a perception of being a Cop, or having been in the Military

Maybe I wanted to look like a hobo, vagrant, or homeless. Has anyone paid attention as to how these persons use flashlights?
It might be worth checking into.

Maybe I just wanted to blend in where I was "nobody". Give off the perception to where I was not associated with being homeless, police, military...anything.
Not even J.Q.Public.

My lessons were private, and included various tools such as lights, and guns.
A lot of my lessons were about never having to use any tool expect my Mental Toolbox ( Software) as my lessons were: I did not go where trouble was, and left when trouble showed up.
Still I had lessons to deal with trouble if need.

If one is "not there" then trouble cannot mark you. If you leave, "nobody" is seen leaving.
If trouble asks about "somebody" , nobody remembers "anybody".

As a regular dumb southern boy, I did not/do not have a duty to run toward trouble, as professionals do.

Not that my moral law, moral code, and how me and I mine just were, did not give us reasons to run toward trouble.

No 911, heck many folks did not have a private phone line, instead shared one, called a "party line".

Trouble shows for one of our kind, we were all self reliant and dealt with it.
The law, might be on the far side of the country , or police busy with matters, or...

The running joke for some time now has been, whatever is protocol, dept regs, current methodology, I and mine did at least 90* different if not downright 180* .


Think: Here is something I want you to think about.
Morse Code.
I am soooo ashamed I am so rusty on all this.

Despite all the advances in technology, old school has a place.
Communications are very important tools , in the tool box.

Intermittent switch buttons were used for Morse Code.

It is my understanding Morse Code is not taught as it was in the Military , and it has been forever since I heard a cop mention it was part of the Academy.

Radio is down, cell phone will not work, it is a dark , cold, rainy night and evil has chosen to strike.
One does not want a bright light to give off position, Flash to pass.
or
What is really the threat, is medical emergency, or similar.

Communicating with Good Guys, or Professionals might mean not a bright light, instead Morse Code.

Just wanted to toss that out.
Hurricanes, Tornadoes, Forrest Fires, Flooding, Ice Storms civil un rests, ...are threats too....
 
Used to use the Harries, but never like a technique that has to "hurt to work". Since I wear a watch, I've finished low light training sessions with a bruise on the back of my shooting hand.
I wear my watch on the inside of my wrist. Its a velcro band, so I don't have to worry about a clasp or buckle digging into my wrist.
 
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I have often wondered about tactical lights. It always seemed to me that the bad guy would probably see you first. In a dark situation, I could see how the FBI carry would help. If the light was bright enough, it would probably semi-blind the bad guy. If he shot at you, he would probably shoot at the light. That is some scary stuff.
 
Carried a small bright light for ever. Never used one in a "Tactical" situation.

But I have used it in all kinds of ways, my Surefire fits into a Glock single mag pouch, lens down (9mm) need to run the pouch under the hot tap in the sink for a while. Then force the flashlight in to it. You never have to go to get it, you have it, most use, in day light, dark places abound.
 
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