Home defense, gun storage and placement

[tws3b2]

out of the reach

The problem with just keeping a handgun "out of reach" is kids grow, and they learn. By the time some (if not most) kids are 6 years old there is likely no place in most homes they can't find a way to get to or a lock they can't manipulate if they have watched it done before.
That's why I like keyed locks over push button combination locks. You can at least put a key in your pocket or hide it. But a 6 year only has to watch a push button key pad opened a couple times and they will remember. By the time they are 10 there is nothing they can't figure out.
There is No Sure way.

 

[Blue Jays]

By the time I was nine years old I had figured out access points how to crawl between thin spaces between the interior walls and the exterior walls of our first family home. Had I managed to somehow get stuck…I guess my mom and dad would have needed to knock holes in the walls with a sledgehammer!

The point is that inquisitive and curious kids will find EVERYTHING and will tirelessly stack furniture or get ladders to examine and explore every square inch of the family residence. The only way is ongoing age-appropriate firearm education coupled with secure locked storage areas in case any of their nitwit friends gain access to home.

 

[Palladan44]

The problem with just keeping a handgun "out of reach" is kids grow, and they learn. By the time some (if not most) kids are 6 years old there is likely no place in most homes they can't find a way to get to or a lock they can't manipulate if they have watched it done before.
That's why I like keyed locks over push button combination locks. You can at least put a key in your pocket or hide it. But a 6 year only has to watch a push button key pad opened a couple times and they will remember. By the time they are 10 there is nothing they can't figure out.
There is No Sure way.

"Out of reach" is bad phraseology, I'm going to agree.
The word "reach" is sort of implying that hiding or putting a firearm in a high up closet may suffice. I don't think it does either.
What is really meant by "out of reach" is meant there is no way for them to physically access it. That is what I'm getting at.

 

[tws3b2]

"Out of reach" is bad phraseology, I'm going to agree.
The word "reach" is sort of implying that hiding or putting a firearm in a high up closet may suffice. I don't think it does either.
What is really meant by "out of reach" is meant there is no way for them to physically access it. That is what I'm getting at.

I was sure that's what You meant. I didn't really intend to point my comments at you but more at the words "out of reach". I went about it the wrong way. Sorry.
I raised 3 kids. Helped raise 6 grandkids and now with 4 great grandkids. I have enough experience with kids to know there is no such thing "out of reach" when they are around.
I know of some and I am sure that there are a lot of people (even some here) that think that a closet or high shelf is all that's needed.
Some years ago. A 5 year old boy near me somehow got to his dads gun and shot himself in the face. That really got me. Since, I have been anti gun around kids. I don't see how anyone could live with that.

 

[Palladan44]

I was sure that's what You meant. I didn't really intend to point my comments at you but more at the words "out of reach". I went about it the wrong way. Sorry.
I raised 3 kids. Helped raise 6 grandkids and now with 4 great grandkids. I have enough experience with kids to know there is no such thing "out of reach" when they are around.
I know of some and I am sure that there are a lot of people (even some here) that think that a closet or high shelf is all that's needed.
Some years ago. A 5 year old boy near me somehow got to his dads gun and shot himself in the face. That really got me. Since, I have been anti gun around kids. I don't see how anyone could live with that.

I agree with you're thinking 100%

 

[.38 Special]

For several years I used the GunVault brand for bedside handgun storage. They always failed in one way or another and the last one I bought caused me real headaches. I finally had to cut it open (ten minutes with a hacksaw) in order to get to my CCW requalification class on time.




Between the poor reliability of electronic locks and the ease of cutting through the thin sheet metal, I decided to stop wasting my money. A Fort Knox vault with a Simplex lock has taken over and I wish I'd started with one in the first place. The only remaining question is whether I should spend the considerable amount of money it would take to get one for my shotgun as well.

 

[dh1633pm]

Don't have grand kids and my children are out of the house. I could tell you how I store them around, but that is privileged information. When they were young, I practiced and taught appropriate safety. Barrel pointed in safe direction, finger off the trigger until ready to fire. Children were also taught everything is always loaded.

 

[.38 Special]

Don't have grand kids and mine children are out of the house. I could tell you how I store them around, but that is privileged information.

I'm not sure we're especially interested in where you keep your children anyway.