home made parlor pistol?

[icebones]

any one ever heard of a "parlor pistol", or a "gallery pistol"?

i saw modern repro guns in cabelas (i think)

apparently they only use a #10 or #11 (im not shure) primer to fire a small pellet or BB.

they were used in the past for indoor target shooting,

anyone have one?

considering a small purcussion cap can propell a pellet at about 300-400 FPS,
i was thinking about salvaging an old .117 caliber barrel from a gamo pellet rifle that came apart on me a few years back, the barrel is thick and heavy, so it will hold up to the pressure, but instead of using #11 caps, i was thinking about custom cutting a "chamber" on a lathe to hold 209 shotshell primers, considering a 209 primer is much more powerful than a #11 cap, vecolity should be much higher.
also i was also planning on welding 1/4'' steel plated to form a reciever for the rifle, and building a hindged breech cover out of welded 1/4'' steel, to prevent any cap fragments from spraying out if the worst should happen, i am going to make my own trigger and hammer too

i will try to draw up a rough blue print of this design...

any thoughts?

 

[Pancho]

You could drill and tap it for 1/4-28 and use a musket nipple and caps. I read once that musket caps were 7 times hotter than #11. Don't hold me to this because I can't remember the source.

 

[RyanM]

I've done this with CCI small pistol primers (the weakest primer on the market), and a .22 caliber barrel. .22 cal airgun pellets have the skirt ballooned out to the point where about half the rounds were split in half, with the tip flying out and the skirt staying in the barrel. Even when the whole thing comes out, the velocity was not great at all, according to unscientific modeling clay penetration testing, comparing the pellets fired out of an airgun to those fired by a primer. Out of an airgun, they'd embed a couple inches in, and make about a 1/2" diameter hole. With a primer, they'd just barely stick in, with some sticking out. Loaded backwards, pellets wouldn't balloon out, but the velocity was still pretty low.

Looks like smokeless primers have too high of a pressure spike for standard airgun pellets, and don't make enough of a volume of gas to get much real power. At least the CCI small pistol ones.

 

[Duncaninfrance]

Here is some good info for you icebones.
http://www.ctmuzzleloaders.com/ctml_experiments/parlor_pistol/parlor_pistol.html

 

[arcticap]

Pedersoli still makes some parlor pistols:

http://www.davide-pedersoli.com/ArmiCategoria.aspx?CategoriaId=127&lang=en

http://www.davide-pedersoli.com/ArmiCategoria.aspx?CategoriaId=128&lang=en

http://www.davide-pedersoli.com/ArmiCategoria.aspx?CategoriaId=120&lang=en

They even make a Le Page target pistol with 2 barrels, a .45 and a 4.5mm training barrel which is also available separately.

http://waffen-hege.de/shop/index.php?id=1&cat=77

Homepage: Click the "English flag" on the right hand side of the page for English:
http://waffen-hege.de/

 

[Mike OTDP]

Umm...

As much as I love muzzle-loaders, I would not bother with trying to make a parlor pistol when there are match air pistols to be had.

 

[icebones]

RyanM gave me a good idea, instead of using .22 caliber pellets why not just use some lighter weight .22lr bullets like those with the Aguila calibori brand, if that dont work, a .22caliber BB (if there is such a thing) patched with a cleaning patch just like a conventional muzzleloader should work.

or maybe a simmilar sized steel ball bearing with a patch

 

[icebones]

speaking of small "parlor pistols" check this out... its not a parlor pistol per se, but still interesting

---the worlds smallest revolver.

http://www.swissminigun.com/

2.34mm rimfire.

what a monster:banghead:

hell you yould have to load that thing with tweasers!!!

 

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