Beagle-zebub
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A lot of those Khyber Pass Copies are sufficiently un-crude to be indistinguishable from the originals when a person is not aware of how the markings differ.
Homemade $10 handguns!
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A lot of those Khyber Pass Copies are sufficiently un-crude to be indistinguishable from the originals when a person is not aware of how the markings differ.
MikePGS
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Perhaps if they were to channel some of the oil for food moneys towards this problem... oh, sorry thats probably a sensitive subject for Mr Annan.
rdrancher
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My wife loves crafts. Bet she could make me one.
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Big Daddy Grim
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I wouldn't mind about twelve of them little devils Hello stocking stuffers
Speedo66
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I don't suppose we could get one of them to post the plans......
(Administrators, as poor a one as it may seem, that was a joke!!)
(Administrators, as poor a one as it may seem, that was a joke!!)
You know, in other countries they have cheap cool stuff... Cars that cost $1,800 dollars (the peoples car), laptops that cost $200 (microsoft in India), scooters for $200, Guns for $30.00
In America, we have to pay ridiculous prices for plastic flowers... Ridiculous prices for ATV's... I mean in India I can get three CARS for that...
I would like a few stocking stuffers too.
In America, we have to pay ridiculous prices for plastic flowers... Ridiculous prices for ATV's... I mean in India I can get three CARS for that...
I would like a few stocking stuffers too.
Shear_stress
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Are you serious? Annual per capita income in India is less than a thousand bucks, while it's over $45,000 in the U.S. An $1800 car to the average Indian is like an $81,000 car to the average American.
matt87
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Cast iron barrel? In a suitable weight, that sounds rather... 'delicate'. Wouldn't wan to touch-off any hot loads, certainly without a decent proof...
One can build a smoothbore SMG in a weekend with some cheap tools -- hand drill, files and a vice are probably the most appropriate modern ones. An angle grinder and an electric hand drill are faster though. (This was proved quite well by a British man by the name of Luty.) Add some good ol' blacksmiths' knowhow and you have a very capable gunsmith. Who needs a mill or a press? A MIG welder might be useful though -- speeds production.
Look at the production of Kentucky rifles 150+ years ago. That happened in backwoods smithies without modern metallurgical knowledge, without the unitary cartridge and without power tools.
One can build a smoothbore SMG in a weekend with some cheap tools -- hand drill, files and a vice are probably the most appropriate modern ones. An angle grinder and an electric hand drill are faster though. (This was proved quite well by a British man by the name of Luty.) Add some good ol' blacksmiths' knowhow and you have a very capable gunsmith. Who needs a mill or a press? A MIG welder might be useful though -- speeds production.
Look at the production of Kentucky rifles 150+ years ago. That happened in backwoods smithies without modern metallurgical knowledge, without the unitary cartridge and without power tools.
wacki
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submachinegun? luty? Sources plz. I don't intend on making one but I'd love to have this info for academic debates.
matt87
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His website: http://www.thehomegunsmith.com/ The gentleman seems... not exactly the most unbiased. Okay, so he seems plain unhinged at times. His results though are there. His first book is usually available through Amazon.
matt87
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'Cast iron' is an archaeic term which denotes that the chemical composition lends itself to casting at a manageable temperature of some 1200 degrees C.
Cast iron is an alloy of iron and between 2.2 and 4% carbon by weight. Steel is an alloy of between 0.1 and 2.2% carbon, iron and other elements as required. Stainless steel for instance has over 10% chromium. Steel can have its properties altered by adjusting the heat treatment and the chemical composition, so it can be malleable and tough or hard and brittle, or anywhere in between. Cast iron is just plain brittle -- it works in a black-powder cannon since the barrel can be thick and BP tends to give a lower pressure curve than smokeless.
Cast iron is an alloy of iron and between 2.2 and 4% carbon by weight. Steel is an alloy of between 0.1 and 2.2% carbon, iron and other elements as required. Stainless steel for instance has over 10% chromium. Steel can have its properties altered by adjusting the heat treatment and the chemical composition, so it can be malleable and tough or hard and brittle, or anywhere in between. Cast iron is just plain brittle -- it works in a black-powder cannon since the barrel can be thick and BP tends to give a lower pressure curve than smokeless.
zxcvbob
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You realize that building your own gun is legal in the US? You don't even need any kind of license unless it's a MG or other NFA weapon. (Some designs would be best stayed away from, like anything that fires from an open bolt...)
Not all cast iron is brittle. Look up "ductile iron" or "nodular cast iron"
zxcvbob
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Does the gun in the picture even have a trigger, or does the shooter just thumb the hammers?
matt87
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I'm not saying it's not feasible with an appropriately designed gun, but either these guns have steel barrels or I wouldn't be the first in line at the range...
BHP FAN
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the silenced pistol seems to be a Welrod.
And just think, in the USA modern tools (lathes, mills, grinders) that are electrically powered are all over the freaking place. Try to ban guns here and you'll see all manner of untraceable firearms like these, just better made and probably cheaper!
FLoppyTOE
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I could seriously only stomach reading about paragraph and a half. That crap makes my blood boil.
Shear Stress said:
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Do you think that has anything to do with anything? Because I have more money on average and everything is relative, I should have to pay more for a car?
That makes no sense... Thinking like that is what is killing American innovation and competitiveness.
Speedo66
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"Do you realize it's legal to build your own gun in the US"?
Yes, but for most people, once you built it, it would be illegal to possess due to local laws.
Yes, but for most people, once you built it, it would be illegal to possess due to local laws.
Anywhere gun registration isn't required, a rifled pistol would be perfectly legal. You just have to obey all state and Federal laws - mostly, just follow the NFA and you're good.
Now and then just for fun I make a 20" barreled pull-release fire shotgun out of pipe and a 2"x4".
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