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Poll is currently running at 95% in his favor. Take poll:

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local...rifle_has_brooklyn_man_at_odds_with_cops.html


Up in arms over gun: Replica rifle has Brooklyn man at odds with cops

BY Joseph Goldstein
DAILY NEWS WRITER

Wednesday, July 29th 2009, 4:00 AM
Zalcman for News

Michael Littlejohn holds the custom-made rifle in question.
Up in arms


Like America's first soldiers at the Battle of Brooklyn, Michael Littlejohn is fighting for his right to bear arms.

The Revolutionary War buff charges the Bloomberg administration with tyranny for trying to seize his handmade flintlock rifle - a dead ringer for the weapon once used against the redcoats.

"This is the last legal gun that you can have without registration in New York," Littlejohn said. "And yet Mayor Bloomberg is driven crazy by my flintlock gun - the one that won the American Revolution."

Littlejohn fired the first shot when he hired a Tennessee blacksmith to recreate the vintage rifle. It arrived at his Sheepshead Bay, Brooklyn, apartment in June - followed quickly by city cops.

Police claim it's illegal for Littlejohn to keep the flintlock without a gun license.

Littlejohn, 50, cites the earliest American patriots as his inspiration while refusing to surrender his firearm or apply for a license.

The social worker is also clinging to a little-known exemption in the city's strict gun laws.

The loophole allows license-free ownership of "antique firearms" - defined as rifles that require the bullet and gunpowder to be loaded separately.

Littlejohn's rifle appears to fit the bill.

Loading the weapon, he explains, is a multistep process that takes several pokes with a ramrod and up to a minute to complete.

To fire, the rifle relies on a sharpened piece of flint that produces a spark when the trigger is pulled. That point is moot, Littlejohn says: He doesn't own gunpowder or bullets.

That's not enough to make the NYPD retreat.

The cops visited Littlejohn's apartment and sat down this month with the Tennessee blacksmith who forged the rifle.

The lead detective on the case told Littlejohn's lawyer that he had orders "from higher-ups" to pursue the case, according to an e-mail the lawyer sent to Littlejohn.

Littlejohn's interest in the Revolutionary War dates to his childhood. He grew up playing tag outside the upstate Newburgh house used in 1782-83 as Gen. George Washington's headquarters.

As an adult, he joined in Colonial American reenactments in Virginia and Georgia.

The NYPD learned about Littlejohn's $825 rifle when he left a receipt inside a Staples copy center, prompting a call to the cops.

Cops aren't threatening to arrest Littlejohn - yet. Lawyer Joyce David, who represented Littlejohn until it became too expensive, says her ex-client could wind up with a summons.

A police source says the war could end peacefully if Littlejohn applied for a permit with the NYPD handgun license division.

Littlejohn would rather fight. The Brooklynite says he's willing to sue for his rifle rights.
 
:barf: "There are eight million stories in the Naked City ..." :barf:

I recall when the NRA presented Rush Limbaugh -- who at the time lived in New Yuck City -- with a repro flintlock rifle. He had to go through a whole bunch of rigamarole to get the license to keep the gun. There was no mention of any "exemption" for an "antique," but Rush did it.
Don't think he ever fired the thing.
I've been to NYC ... I would never want to live there.
 
GAH! There's nothing that annoys me more than a poorly worded poll full of leading questions and answers.

Yes. It's clear the gun will never pose a threat to anyone's safety.

I'd prefer that the man have an M16 without some silly license, and I'd prefer that it be able to pose a deadly threat to someone should this guy need to defend himself.
 
I must say, given the general attitude of most cops in NY, this story is most unsurprising. I always chuckle when I see 5 cops rifling through an 80 year-old woman's purse in the subway, as if that was going to stop the possibility of a terrorist attack. All in all, NY really leads the nation in wasted resources. That being said, it's still one heck of a city!
 
I'd like to come over to his place, and target practice with a nailgun and a target on the wall, all while the cops watch and try to pursue arresting this guy. Obviously, since a nailgun isn't a real gun, it's no threat at all :D

-edit- If they assume it's a terrorist threat, I put them on the same level as the guys who thought this was a "bomb"...

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Muzzle loaders are clearly exempt from the licensing requirements in NYC. Here's the law:

ANTIQUES AND REPLICAS

Exempt from permit and certificate of registration requirements are antique rifles and shotguns incapable of being fired or discharged or which do not fire fixed ammunition or those weapons manufactured prior to 1894 and replicas for which fixed ammunition is not commercially available.

Also exempt is "any unloaded muzzle loading pistol or revolver with a matchlock, flintlock, percussion cap, or similar type of ignition system, or a pistol or revolver which used fixed cartridges which are no longer available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade." This includes replicas.

NOTE: A license would be required to possess these handguns when the ammunition necessary to discharge them is possessed simultaneously.

I don't know what Bloomberg and the cops are talking about. They are violating NYC law. This guy should sue the crap out of the City and Mayor Bloomberg personally. Maybe then the lesson will be learned.
 
It seems crystal clear that what he's doing is legal. I think he needs to look up 42 USC section 1983. Maybe some RKBA legal organization would like to help him out and make some money (from damages payable by NYC) in the process.
 
This is why I would never live in the cesspool that is NYC and have no pity or patience for those who do and thus tacitly support Bloomberg and those like him who came before and who will undoubtedly follow.
 
It would be a better poll if it read something like "Yes the man should be able to keep his rifle by way of the 2nd amendment of the united states constitution"

Not "yes, because it poses no threat"!
 
To each his own, for myself I like to copy the poll's addy and set it in My browser so the votes don't come from One (1) place. Dilutes the effectiveness of the results and gives some people just what they need to dispute the results. But that's just me.

Some people, like one of my children, live and work in Manhattan out of necessity. They'll make enough to get out of the "cesspool".. and buy that ranch here in Texas before they're to old to not enjoy it. A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do.

97% Yes...3% No at post time!! Very nice.
 
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This is why I would never live in the cesspool that is NYC and have no pity or patience for those who do and thus tacitly support Bloomberg and those like him who came before and who will undoubtedly follow.

Tell us how you really feel! Have you been to the city in the last 15 years?
 
This is why I would never live in the cesspool that is NYC and have no pity or patience for those who do and thus tacitly support Bloomberg and those like him who came before and who will undoubtedly follow.

It's only a cesspool if guns are one of the only things that are major in your life. Different strokes for different folks. Some people can't stand crowds, others like the hustle and bustle of city life. Lesser populated regions tend to be more freedom oriented due to the necessity of self reliance. That is true in every country.

So if we extrapolated the above statement then all of us tacitly approve of our current federal gov't's direction too. So what's your suggestion when a majority of your neighbors agree to a collectivist society. Shoot them, educate them, or leave? And what if there's no more place to go. It's so easy to say well why don't you just leave.
 
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The NYPD learned about Littlejohn's $825 rifle when he left a receipt inside a Staples copy center, prompting a call to the cops.
I wonder if that tofu eating Judas has gotten his 30 pieces of silver yet.
It's only a cesspool if guns are one of the only things that are major in your life.
Or if you give a damn about freedom, the Bill of Rights, or the American way of life...
 
NYC is honestly a cool place. It's just that the gun laws stink. If NYC had Texas gun laws, I'd move there in a second.
 
What should have happened in this case is that the NYPD should have examined the receipt, consulted the NYS Penal Law and NYC Administrative Code and then told the complainant that there was no crime. At most, a detective should have visited this man's home and politely knocked on his door to verify that the rifle was an antique.

Of course, this isn't what happened. What people don't understand about New York City is that it really isn't run like any other place in the United States. In some respects Washington D.C. and certain other major cities can come close but nothing really captures the flavor of NYC government except NYC government. To the Mayor, the City Council, the Police Commissioner etcetera you are just a cow. In other words, an animal whose purpose in life it is to be set out to graze and then be milked. If you get out of line you get zapped with a cattle prod until you're put back in line. If your meat is needed for the master's table then your time ends. This is how NYC government treats you. You have no right to do anything without first asking and paying for muncipal permission and renewing that permission regularly for a price.

I lived in New York City for twenty years both before and after it was supposedly cleaned up. I continue to visit the City at least once a year, if not more. The once astronomical crime rate (now merely a high crime rate, one that's covered up by creative NYPD statistical accounting practices) and the still unparalleled level of municipal corruption aren't an accident. What they are is a consequence of a servile population that is actually proud of having begged for and received government permission to live its life.

During my time in NYC I would meet, live next to or work with people, significant numbers of people, who I later realized didn't have any self respect. They would apply for a driver's license, a pistol or rifle/shotgun license, a barber's license, a peddler's license, a license to peaceably assemble, a license to do anything and everything and they would be ecstatic about it. They weren't excited about the new car they bought, they were excited about having government permission to drive it. They weren't exited about shooting the new rifle they owned, they were excited about having received government permission to buy it. They weren't excited about their profession, they were excited about having received permission to work. Most of New York City's population has been conditioned to believe that it is not entitled to any of the natural rights our forebearers fought, died and agitated for. Pull, influence and government permission are the order of the day. Many New Yorkers would be uncomfortable just being able to buy things or do things without having to ask. I've seen transplanted New Yorkers who walk into a gun shop outside of NYS and say "You mean I can just buy a pistol?" They look queasy.

There's more to life than restaurants, museums and Little Italy/Chinatown. New York City isn't going to get cleaned up until outside forces clean it up. Take it from someone who lived, worked and was schooled in various parts of the City: the luster fades quickly.
 
Thank you for this essay. This reflects exactly how NYC is run. You should send this in to the opinion page on New York Post.

I hate living under Bloomberg's boot. Soon they'll make us apply for a permit to relieve ourselves in our own home.
 
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