Hornady No 3017 30 cal 110 gr FMJ bullets

[orpington]

Several years ago, I was at an out-of-the-way gunshop and I purchased 25 cal bullets, as I have a .25-20, not realising that the bullets I purchased were for a 25 cal round like 25-06 or 257 Roberts, and not .25-20. Knowing I would never get a .25-06 or 257 Roberts, these were useless to me.

So I ended up at an out-of-the-way gunshop today and I was offered $15.00 for the box of 100 bullets. The proprietor had a box of Hornady No 3017 30 cal 110 gr FMJ bullets for $15.00. An even trade. I reasoned these would be something just to shoot in my .30-06.

Not having the reloading manual with me and having a bit of a drive, I called Hornady, realising that these out-of-the-way gunshops can get you into trouble.

I spoke with technical support and the technician said these were for 30 M1 Carbine, and not for .30-06, and he said you risk lodging the jacket in the barrel of the .30-06 if you fire it in that round. I asked what options were there in .30-06, and he said there were really no options.

When I got home, I pulled out my Hornady Handbook of Cartridge Reloading and noted that there are several loads listed for this particular bullet in .30-06 on page 344, as well as loads for .30-40 Krag (which I also reload for) on p. 342.

So, since it is listed in the book, should I have any concerns? Why would Hornady technical support tell me what they did when their manual contradicts this?

 

[gamestalker]

Yes, you can separate the jacket from the core, thus leaving the jacket in the barrel. But if there is some data, it's probably lower pressure, lower velocity data. Obviously, you can't push these at varmint bullet velocities, but I'm sure they would function pretty well for plinking loads. Just take it easy with them, watch for signs of separation, splattering on the paper at close range (25 yds.), and check the barrel for anything that might have been left behind. I wouldn't expect much in the way of accuracy either, but who knows?

GS

 

[Laphroaig]

I've also heard that the jacket can be separated from the lead core. I've always assumed that happened with soft point or hollow point bullets.

But the construction of FMJ bullets where the exposed lead core is at the base of the bullet makes me wonder how that could be possible?

Laphroaig

 

[Haxby]

If you call Hornady again, and talk to a different person, I suspect you'll get a completely different answer. You should be able to load that bullet at anywhere from 1500 to 3000 fps with no problem.
As far as sticking the jacket in the barrel, I just can't picture a way the core could get out of the barrel without taking the jacket with it.

 

[Bwana John]

I love shooting 110 gr carbine bullets in my 30-06!!! (both jacketed and plated)

18.5 gr SR 4759 and a magnum primer at ~1800 fps.

 

[orpington]

I ended up bringing these back and got something else instead, that I needed.

 

[USMAGator]

This sounds like a great reason to buy an M1 Carbine!

 

[medalguy]

110 gr bullets make an excellent low recoil load for newbies to the .30-06 round. Low load, low velocity, low recoil.

 

[FLIGHT762]

I saw that you took the bullets back, but I believe the Hornady #3017 110 FMJ would be fine to shoot in your 30/06, the bullet that has the possibility of shedding the jacket is the Hornady 100 grain #3005 SHORT JACKET bullet, not the 110 FMJ. I remember reading this about the short jacket bullets. When you see the construction, you'll see why.

Link >> http://www.hornady.com/store/30-Cal-.308-100-gr-Short-Jacket/

 

[Sunray]

That tech is full of excrement. While 110 grain bullets are for the Carbine, there's no reason to not shoot 'em out of an '06. Hodgdon et al wouldn't have data if there was an issue. They're as frightened of law suits as any other manufacturer. Hodgdon's just happens to be for a Hornady SP too.
"...and not .25-20..." Same diameter as the .257 Roberts. Same weights can be used too. Somebody is leading you astray.

 

[SABjork]

Short Jacket

Yep, The Hornady tech clearly thought you were talking about the short-jacket 100 grain. I shot many of these FMJ 110 grain #3017 as a plinking and target load from a .308 G3 and no problems at all with accurate 2015, TAC, Vectan 3000. The velocity is well over 3100 fps and with the blunt head, the impact is dramatic. Low recoil, High velocity, major fun.

 

[rcmodel]

Wow!

Another Zombie thread resurrected from the dead from July last year!!!

How did you dig it up?

Google?
Or some other way?

rc