How do Police Officers feel about CHL's

[asarthur]

I live in Maylene Alabama. Here the three most common vehicle decals are Bama, Auburn and Browning. About 15 months ago, a guy held up a bank, shot and killed two female employees (one 7 months pregnant) and took the female manager as a hostage. A passerby heard the shots, called police on his cell and took out his rifle. Before the police arrived, the robber and his hostage came out. The guy asked the dispatcher what to do, but she wasn't much help. He got a clear shot and put a 30 cal hole in his thigh. When the police arrived, he was giving the perp first aid.

I would have let him bleed out.

 

[Mike Franklin]

As a LEO I have a great deal of leeway as to how the law is enforced and even what charges are filed in a situation. I am not a robot programmed to respond the same in every situation.
JSYK, Agencies are frequently given the authority to write administrative law by Congress or State Legislatures. I don't agree with it and you likely don't even know about it.
And we are Servants of the Public at Large not any individual. You might be interested to know that by Case Law LEOs are not held accountable for protection of individual citizens, only the public at large.
There's also a big difference in a Servant and a Slave. If a Law was passed today telling me to round up members of a certain race or to disarm all gun owners, I wouldn't enforce those Laws. If that makes me a bad Servant then fire me. I have seen the newsreels of the German Police swearing allegiance to Adolph Hitler because the legally passed Law told them to.

 

[Sam]

Mr. Franklin,
I don't think you and I have any disagreement.

Unfortunately I am 'highly regulated" by one of those agencies and I d@mned well don't like it. They have a well documented track record of not playing straight either.

As for folks like Adolph, I think we all agree on how to handle that, even if they do manage to get elected. We just have to pay strict attention to them, we know the what but not the when. I believe that Mr Jefferson put it best:

"whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness"

Sam Damewood

 

[tpaw]

Since when is it important what your servant thinks.
Since they are public servants, and drawing their paycheck from the citizenry, policy wise they are not entitled to an opinion, they are entitled to a paycheck so long as they do the taxpayers bidding.

If they do not care for that, they can do like I did and go into another line of work.

Sam

Sounds like your a disgruntled employee Sam. Something bit YOU in the a$$.

 

[Sam]

Not at all tpaw,
You obviously didn't read and comprehend the entire series of posts.

I was a career Public Servant, enjoyed it and am proud of my service. I am a taxpaying citizen, fully conversant with the Constitution of the United States, and I believe in what it stands for.
I am intolerant of those that believe they are entitled to privilege beyond that accorded their fellow citizens, and of any public servant that feels he is entitled to exercise arbitrary and capricious behavior in the performance of his or her duties.

Nothing has ever bitten me in the @$$ and survived the experience.

 

[tpaw]

I am intolerant of those that believe they are entitled to privilege beyond that accorded their fellow citizens, and of any public servant that feels he is entitled to exercise arbitrary and capricious behavior in the performance of his or her duties.

I understand now, and I could not agree more. Thank you for your response.

 

[bushey83]

All For It!!

I work for a small town department, 6 full time officers, and 4 part timers, and a population of only 2,500 residents. I am FULLY FOR the right for citizens to conceal carry!! As far as I know most of the guys in depts. around me feel the same way. I think as long as you pass a firearms training course, have the proper background checks done, and are made to re-certify every so often like I have to every couple of months, why not!?!

 

[FCFC]

I am FULLY FOR the right for citizens to conceal carry!!...I think as long as you pass a firearms training course, have the proper background checks done, and are made to re-certify every so often like I have to every couple of months, why not!?!

This is a good idea, I think. To re-certify all CCWers periodically. Seems to me if it's good for the LEOs that it would be good for the CCWers (and OCers?).

 

[hoosier8]

Aw Sam!

As for folks like Adolph, I think we all agree on how to handle that, even if they do manage to get elected. We just have to pay strict attention to them, we know the what but not the when. I believe that Mr Jefferson put it best:

"whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness"

It gives me great pleasure to see you speak of the absolute wisdom of the founding fathers. It is with these words that I take comfort in the ability of our great nation to survive attacks, from without and within.

Under an attack from within, it will not be the responsibility of our LEOs to respond or not respond to whatever the command of the day will be, but will the responsibility of the ordinary citizen. Whether we are allowed CHLs or not is of no consequence as our right to keep and bear arms must not be infringed! The battle for our rights will be just that, a battle, and I hope our LEOs will be on the side of the people.

 

[blackcash88]

I work for a small town department, 6 full time officers, and 4 part timers, and a population of only 2,500 residents. I am FULLY FOR the right for citizens to conceal carry!! As far as I know most of the guys in depts. around me feel the same way. I think as long as you pass a firearms training course, have the proper background checks done, and are made to re-certify every so often like I have to every couple of months, why not!?!

Uh, yeah... Would you feel the same way about the bolded part if YOU had to PAY out of pocket for range time, targets, ammo, etc and take TIME off from your REGULAR paying job??? We don't all work in LE and get to shoot/train/qualify for FREE, where that training is part of your job because it's REQUIRED. Get real, dude.