how do you adjust the elevation on glock 19?

[bullseyebob47]

i bought my clock 19 used. it shoots where you put the front dot. its not a 6 o clock hold. my friend bought a glock 19 new and it seems it has a 6 o clock hold. he wants it raised.

 

[Longhorn 76]

Change the sights.
If you are trying to make the gun shoot higher (6 o'clock hold), then get a shorter front sight, or file some off the front sight, or shoot heavier bullets.

 

[Longhorn 76]

IMHO, I prefer my sights to hit point of aim. I believe the "6 o'clock" hold originated for "Bulleseye" matches. In those matches, the bullet holes eventually eradicate your aiming point, and, it also gives a better sight picture when using Patridge sights shooting at traditional black round targets.

 

[samweller]

Climb up to a higher floor before you drop it off the building...

 

[Ric]

Only two options
Change the load or change the sights.
I would try different loads first and see if something acceptable shoots to point of aim.

 

[Walt Sherrill]

how do you adjust the elevation on glock 19? i bought my clock 19 used. it shoots where you put the front dot. its not a 6 o clock hold. my friend bought a glock 19 new and it seems it has a 6 o clock hold. he wants it raised.

Glock recommends a really strange sight picture. This is from a Glock manual... (Just checked and the image was missing!! Added it back.)



Most folks shooting service-type pistols tend toward the "COMBAT hold" recommended by many gunmakers. If the OP (or his friend) is using the "COMBAT hold" recommended by most gunmakers with, with the top of the sights aligned, that would cause the gun to shoot lower than expected. As would the 6 o'clock hold. The COMBAT hold sight picture looks like this (from the new H&K VP9 manual:



A new rear sight (maybe an adjustable), and different front sight (that is lower), or just grinding off part of the front sight might help. A lot of folks love Glocks but hate the sights, and just replace them. It's not too expensive.

Brownells has a sight correction calculator that can help you decide what height you want for a front or rear sight, or how much to grind off... http://www.brownells.com/GunTech/Sight_Correction_Calculator/detail.htm?lid=13093

IMHO, I prefer my sights to hit point of aim. I believe the "6 o'clock" hold originated for "Bulleseye" matches. In those matches, the bullet holes eventually eradicate your aiming point, and, it also gives a better sight picture when using Patridge sights shooting at traditional black round targets.

The targets and target distances are generally pretty standard in Bullseye matches, so the 6 o'clock hold can work well there. But as soon as you start changing the size of the bull, or try to shoot something OTHER than bullseye-type targets, you're forced to guesstimate. It may work at the range, but not as well elsewhere.

 

[L-2]

Glock's standard height rear sight for a G19 is 6.5mm. Try a 6.1mm height sight, which Glock also sells/makes.
Here's a steel version:
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/25...ght-61mm-240-height-steel-black-white-outline

Here's a polymer version:
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/45...t-61mm-240-height-polymer-black-white-outline

 

[Walt Sherrill]

i bought my clock 19 used. it shoots where you put the front dot. its not a 6 o clock hold. my friend bought a glock 19 new and it seems it has a 6 o clock hold. he wants it raised.

As Longhorn 76 said in post #2, "If you are trying to make the gun shoot higher (6 o'clock hold), then get a shorter front sight, or file some off the front sight, or shoot heavier bullets.

If his friend is shooting low, using a LOWER rear sight will just make the problem worse.

When using the same sight picture...

• Change the front sight's height in the opposite direction of desired point of impact change (i.e., a lower front sight will make the point of impact higher.
  
• Change the rear sight's height in the direction of the desired point of impact (i.e., a higher rear sight will raise the point of impact).

Regarding changing to heavier bullets: That seems to be a common suggestion, but I haven't found it to be all that helpful. (It works with revolvers, but is less obvious with semi-autos...)

 

[Thompsoncustom]

Throw away the garbage stock sights and put a good adjustable one on.

 

[Zerodefect]

Taller front sight.

Try the Warren Sevigny comps.

 

[Bigdave24]

Agreed. If it's shooting 6 o'clock hold now, a taller front sight will have impact where you put the dot. Can't tell you how much taller however.

 

[Walt Sherrill]

It's unclear from the original description of the problem... When the OP says, "my friend bought a glock 19 new and it seems it has a 6 o clock hold. he wants it raised."

What does he want raised? The bullets' point of impact? That would suggest it's shooting low. If he's shooting HIGHER than intended, the solution is different.

If the POI is lower than intended, a shorter front sight or higher rear sight is called for, if he continues using the same HOLD (i.e., how he lines up the front and rear sights). If the point of impact is a LOT lower than desired, it may be easier to find a higher rear sight.

If the POI is higher than intended, you do the opposite: a higher/taller front sight or lower rear sight.

Or new sights.

The OP's gun may have had sights changed out before he got it, too... Using the Glock-recommended sight picture from my earlier post may be the answer, too, but I find that "hold" awkward.