That is a lot of what ifs. I suspect if your hypothetical machine gun carrying student used an ordinary handgun, he would lessen the chances of hitting that bystander in the first place than if he used his backpack mounted belt fed machine gun. Plus it would be lighter, less bulky, and easier to access from a holster. And you could carry books and a lunch in your backpack.
How do you legally get a machine gun?
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That is a lot of what ifs. I suspect if your hypothetical machine gun carrying student used an ordinary handgun, he would lessen the chances of hitting that bystander in the first place than if he used his backpack mounted belt fed machine gun. Plus it would be lighter, less bulky, and easier to access from a holster. And you could carry books and a lunch in your backpack.
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If I am arrested for a self-defense homicide, the first person I will call is my lawyer. (Whom I have already consulted about the possibility.) The first person HE will call when lining up my defense is Massad Ayoob. Mas isn't free, and he shouldn't be. He's worth every penny. He is the nation's premiere expert witness in self-defense homicide cases. HE WOULD KNOW as much or more than anyone else in the nation. If he tells me it's a bad idea to carry FA, I listen.
VERY few police agencies carry full auto. Those that do seldom use it. They are under at least as much scrutiny as we are for every single bullet. In the army, using full-auto fire is also limited. The difference between them and us, is that police and military may be required to use their weapons for OFFENSIVE operations. We NEVER use our weapons for offensive operations.
I was actually doing MOUT training with some other language students (The clue to the fact that we are not infantry, and didn't have access to the full squad setup) a couple of weekends ago, and after the dust settled, I was asked why I crossed a small ravine to finish an ambusher. (It was very dangerous, I was way out in the open.) I replied that I shot at him repeatedly from behind cover, and his MILES gear didn't go off, so I had to get close to him to end the fight. They asked if I would do that in real life, I replied that in real life, I would have had my SAW gunner light him up and I would have thumped him with a 40 mm grenade. I wouldn't have been trying to cut through the log he was sitting behind with an M-16. They agreed that in real life, this is what you should do. If I had been a civilian, I would have RUN AWAY. THIS is the difference between civilian and military application.
VERY few police agencies carry full auto. Those that do seldom use it. They are under at least as much scrutiny as we are for every single bullet. In the army, using full-auto fire is also limited. The difference between them and us, is that police and military may be required to use their weapons for OFFENSIVE operations. We NEVER use our weapons for offensive operations.
I was actually doing MOUT training with some other language students (The clue to the fact that we are not infantry, and didn't have access to the full squad setup) a couple of weekends ago, and after the dust settled, I was asked why I crossed a small ravine to finish an ambusher. (It was very dangerous, I was way out in the open.) I replied that I shot at him repeatedly from behind cover, and his MILES gear didn't go off, so I had to get close to him to end the fight. They asked if I would do that in real life, I replied that in real life, I would have had my SAW gunner light him up and I would have thumped him with a 40 mm grenade. I wouldn't have been trying to cut through the log he was sitting behind with an M-16. They agreed that in real life, this is what you should do. If I had been a civilian, I would have RUN AWAY. THIS is the difference between civilian and military application.
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HI:
I saw the guy who wanted to know which was most accurate semi or full auto. I think Hollywood has destorted the real truth about NFA GUNS! Never buy a class III gun because of what you see on a movie or tv!
Remember these are tactical weapons and have a different purpose than most everyday people need or really want. Suppressors are one that I have seen many people unhappy with, because they did not do their homework before buying! Always get to know the weapon and what it is designed to do and match it to what you want or need it to do. And you will love getting into NFA Guns at that time! They are great, just get educated before that huge amount of money purchase!
steve
I saw the guy who wanted to know which was most accurate semi or full auto. I think Hollywood has destorted the real truth about NFA GUNS! Never buy a class III gun because of what you see on a movie or tv!
Remember these are tactical weapons and have a different purpose than most everyday people need or really want. Suppressors are one that I have seen many people unhappy with, because they did not do their homework before buying! Always get to know the weapon and what it is designed to do and match it to what you want or need it to do. And you will love getting into NFA Guns at that time! They are great, just get educated before that huge amount of money purchase!
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Getting a reserve (or even a full-time, paid) position with a law-enforcement agency is NOT going to make it easier for you to buy your own full-auto gun. In 1973 I bought my first machine gun, a Smith & Wesson Model 76. I was a Deputy US Marshal at the time, assigned to the US Marshal's Office in Washington, DC. I had to go through the same background check as any other buyer, and pay the same $200 tax. The background check did go through a little quicker, although I still had to get the sign-off from my local CLEO.
The gun cost me $80.52 brand new in the box.
The gun cost me $80.52 brand new in the box.
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Waaaah!!!!
No fair! Even if they opened the NFA register again, it STILL wouldn't be fair--because in WA State, you can't own full auto. WAAAAAAAAH!!
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