How effective is a .22 mag NAA revolver for SD?

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I realize that its a mouse gun. And yes...I like bigger calibers. My question is not .22 versus other calibers.

Does anyone have examples of .22 mag (not .22lr) NAA revolver and its effect on two-legged predators? Am I wasting time with this mini revolver?
 
"Am I wasting time with this mini revolver?"

How fast can you run after you shoot someone with it? Even center-of-mass hits would require bleedout to become effective on some people. And until it happens, they are going to be upset with you.

Since you asked that we not discuss larger calibers, I won't.

Cordially, Jack
 
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I'm intrigued by these tiny revolvers. I look at them as a modern day derringer...for close up and personal defense.
If one looks at the classic derringers in .38 spl or other calibers, they weigh as much and are damn near as large as most 2" snubbie revolvers. These classic derringers weigh more then a Kel-Tec or LCP. All the listed guns carry more rounds and shoot better (I think, since I've never shot a derringer). so why buy a classic derringer (other then as a collectable or curio)?
But those tiny NAA revolvers...you can't get much smaller or lighter...seem to be good for last recourse defense work meaning, the barrel is right up against the assailant's body. At that range, a .22 Magnum or even a .22 long rifle would definitely get the BG's attention.
 
Go to the general gun threads and look for one by Proud Boer. Lots of info.
 
Well, it beats harsh words. Probably. Penetration (or lack thereof) is a big drawback to these tiny guns, 22LR or Mag. In fact, I think I'd stick to 22LR for cheaper, more frequent practice - which is critical with these puny guns. And the sort sight radius makes them very challenging to shoot. I was at the range with a Marine competition shooter (pistol), and he could only manage 6" groups at 5 yds.

As a BUG (or 2nd BUG), or primary when concealability is of the utmost importance and you are dressed in office attire, it may make sense. I most certainly wouldn't carry it as a primary.

For me personally, something like a Keltec P32 is more reasonable. It is nearly as concealable, the recoil is fairly mild and with FMJ 32 ACP achieves sufficient penetration.

I will say that the little NAAs are extremely well made (like all NAAs). Quite impressive if you ask me.
 
I have one, and in 22 mag it is a handful as far as recoil and handling go. Not really a handful, but that's the problem, not enough to hold on to. Probably good for 5 to 10 yards max, but better than no gun.
 
My OP was meant to inquire more on the amount of damage to a person...

Will it penetrate jacket and penetrate the body....

Would a 4 inch knife blade do more damage... or the .22 mag?

Any personal stories where the .22 mag saved the day? (or not...)
 
It's almost a contact weapon and requires eye socket hits. I can at least shoot mine since I put a folding holster/grip on it. Without the holster grip, I can't grip the thing. It will work up close with proper hits on the head, I'm quite sure. I often pocket mine in my weak side pocket in addition to my 9x19 or .38 special, but I never carry the thing as a primary. It's pretty accurate if you have the time and the light to align those tiny sights, but it's not much of a point shooter and you can't count on having that much time.

I figure in a fire fight, if I were behind a barricade, hard cover, it DOES make a lot of noise and maybe could keep a guy's head down while I clear a jam or something, not that I've ever had a jam, but I'm just sayin'. But, it's beats a knife up close since I don't really like knifes.

Mine's a .22LR. Best I can give you on effectiveness is the feral dog I head shot with it at about 25 yards, DOA. Yeah, a little luck in that shot. The thing groups about 6" at that range from a bench being REAL deliberate. :D It stiffened up and just fell over. I have that thing with me a lot and didn't have anything else when I caught this mangy critter chasing chickens. I didn't wanna get too close to him, mange city and drooling. Hit him right in the head near the left eye. Yeah, a CNS hit seems to work, at least on a 60 lb dog.
 
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Consider it a very loud, 5 try ice pick except harder to hold onto than a good ice pick, with a little more range. It is better than nothing, no one really wants to get shot, assuming they actually can SEE it in your hand if you need to draw it.
 
I have never shot anyone with mine, but I sure as hell would not want to be shot with it.

I have shot through a jacket, a shirt and into a big pumpkin, and the bullet went through it all from 10 feet away.

I carry my 22 Mag NAA 24/7 as well as my Kal-Tec 380 ACP. I have other carry guns, but there is a lot of times a larger gun just is not the right thing to carry.

The bad thing about a 22 bullet, it does not make a big hole, but once inside it tears things up.
 
They might be effective against a lethargic rat.
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It is talk like this is what gets to me.

I bet you a million bucks you would not let me shoot you 5 times with my 22 Mag from 10 yards.

Is the 22 Mag NAA the best choice for SD, no but I sure as hell know it will kill someone.
 
Ballistics on the 22 mag aren't the best, but I always said that the gulf between unarmed and armed is a lot wider than the one between 9mm and .45. I'm not sure where a NAA revolver in .22 Magnum falls on the scale, but I'd place it pretty far from unarmed.
As a second gun, why not?* As a primary gun, I think you can conceal and legally carry something much larger, and for home defense, it falls far short of effective.


*most people are comfortable with NO gun
a minority are comfortable with a handgun
a smaller minority need a reload
and a few rare citizens feel a need for a second weapon
 
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I realize that its a mouse gun. And yes...I like bigger calibers. My question is not .22 versus other calibers.

Does anyone have examples of .22 mag (not .22lr) NAA revolver and its effect on two-legged predators? Am I wasting time with this mini revolver?
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22 Mag is -not- just a 22lr on steroids. You are now into a fully jacketed seated bullet, that will give you much more velocity and penetration than will a 22lr. It's a wicked nasty little round.

Would a .45, 44 Magnum or .454 Causal make a bigger hole? Yep.

Can I slip one of them into the pocket of my shorts and have no one notice?

Nope.

Penetration? Hows about 10 - 12+ inches in balistics jell ... OUT OF a 1 1/8 inch barrel mini.

http://www.brassfetcher.com/NAAminiRevolver22Magnum.html

Personally, an NAA Black Widow in 22Mag is my personal all the time carry. It has a longer barrel (not much), and BIG rubber grips that make shooting it a snap. Natural point, and puts all 5 (VERY LOUD) rounds where I point it.
 
My buddy has a Ruger Single Six with the mag barrel. We were using it to plink at a metal .22 targe last year. From about 20 yards. We started using .22 magnums and later were surprised to see they were pentrating the metal target (22 LR's just left tiny dents). We both agreed we sure wouldn't want to be in front of that bullet.
 
Asking that question is like me asking: " I am going to Alaska. Plan on doing some hiking in the back country. It is full go grizely bears just waiting to eat me. Would it be all right to shoot one with my 22' if I had to. " Yep, if thats all you got., but you had better have a good arm to throw it at him after you empty it and good legs to run. I love my 22". And I dont want to get shot by one. But if I was a BG robbing you I would feel safer if I knew you had a 22 than something larger. If all you had to defend yourself is a pellet gun. (you know it will put your eye out, shoot both of them) I guess use it. After all "David" took on giolath with a sling shot. Its like buying insurance on your house. Do you plan on it burning down, but lif it does you had better have more coverage that what you would have on a tent.
 
Sounds like some here think anything short of a Dirty Harry Hog Leg wouldn't make an invader think twice.

So much BS to refute, so little time.

Suffice to say...a .22 mag would scare the **** out of an invader, and 2 well place shots would probably kill him...

Having said that, there are indeed much better small handguns to use.
 
I have one with the NAA boot grips. They give the grip the same profile as a SAA in miniature. Pointability and control are improved by orders of magnitude.
.22 magnum is a nasty little round and these guns are often used at contact range. Google up some post-mortem suicide photos and have yourself a look at what high pressure gas does when it is blasted into a wound, even from small caliber weapons.
I have a .38 Chiefs Special that is my preferred carry piece. I like it better than my NAA and it uses an indisputably more effective cartridge. If the choice is carry the NAA or no gun, then I take the NAA and I don't feel sorry for myself. Nobody wants to get shot and any working gun trumps being empty handed.
 
ive tested mines thru car doors and it does penetrate . mines has the interchangeble cylinders ive had mines for years and its been reliable had to send it back to naa for new hammer spring . not accurate , and very loud but i carry it every day when other guns are not practical.
 
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