Say, on a 10" vitals-circle, at 10 ft, with full charge ammo, using your ccw gun? I recommend that you not use anything with which you can't beat .25 second, because any punk with a .22lr autoloader can do that well. There could easily be more than one of them firing at you, too. Most shots in combat miss the target entirely, and most hits are poor ones. Repeat hit speed is vital, and many types of guns and loads make it very hard to attain. For instance, airwt .38 snubs, 357 snubs, .44 Special snubs (alloy frames) .40 cal pocket autos.
How fast are your repeat hits?
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dovedescending
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So 4 shots per second is what you think is good? Are we timing from the draw? From the first shot? .25 seconds between shots? From concealment? Back to target?
I prefer the Magpul model: in 2 seconds, from concealment to final shot, how many can you shoot? Answer? I have no idea, I don't own a shot timer. But it ain't slow.
I prefer the Magpul model: in 2 seconds, from concealment to final shot, how many can you shoot? Answer? I have no idea, I don't own a shot timer. But it ain't slow.
ljnowell
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What are you doing today, trying to post as many statement based threads as possible?
Shadow 7D
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faster or slower depending on what I'm shooting and how fast I go
more details will get more details
more details will get more details
writerinmo
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All of my repeat shots are EXACTLY one gunshot apart...
Joshua M. Smith
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Well howdy Mr. Davis, when did you get released?
Sunray
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"...I recommend..." A 1/4 second? And your credentials are what? Ever actually fire a handgun?
Joshua M. Smith
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If this person is indeed Davis, aka Gunkid, he was a low-level circuit shooter in the '70s and '80s.
He was busted for illegal weaponry, including homemade suppressors. He thinks he's special, or something.
He is, I believe, a felon, and is not allowed to own firearms any longer. Also, IIRC, he made a lot of his gun money from selling drugs.
Josh
He was busted for illegal weaponry, including homemade suppressors. He thinks he's special, or something.
He is, I believe, a felon, and is not allowed to own firearms any longer. Also, IIRC, he made a lot of his gun money from selling drugs.
Josh
Smith357
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If I do it right the first time there is no need for a repeat hit, How fast can I acquire a new moving target is the question.
Joshua M. Smith
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My "test" is a 6'' circle at 18 feet.
I count the time only if both my first and second shot hit the circle.
With standard 230 gr. factory ammunition:
My Kimber CDP Compact around .29 average for 1st - 2nd shot, remember both must hit.
Using my Colt Light Weight Commander with XS Big Dot sights I cut this down to about .21 sec. average.
I count the time only if both my first and second shot hit the circle.
With standard 230 gr. factory ammunition:
My Kimber CDP Compact around .29 average for 1st - 2nd shot, remember both must hit.
Using my Colt Light Weight Commander with XS Big Dot sights I cut this down to about .21 sec. average.
mustang_steve
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At that range, I can magdump a 10rd magazine from my sccy in about 8 seconds...but that's really pushing it, as it's starting to go from bad trigger form to horrible trigger form. Only so much can be done with such a long trigger pull.
Provided, the odds of having to play "Bruce Willis in Die Hard" are slim to none. We know the Piggly Wiggly is a giant funnel of death, but the armrored shopping carts aren't going to save you.
Provided, the odds of having to play "Bruce Willis in Die Hard" are slim to none. We know the Piggly Wiggly is a giant funnel of death, but the armrored shopping carts aren't going to save you.
Yarddog
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With MY handloads, I can dump a mag of 15rnds in about 5 sec about in 5" @ 25'
With carry rounds +ps 124gr I won't dump a Mag of 15 I double tap MO-CM ; )
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With carry rounds +ps 124gr I won't dump a Mag of 15 I double tap MO-CM ; )
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Steve 48
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I only need one shot for most things. I will take a 2nd shot if I have too. A well aimed shot is better than 2 quick shots. Just read Wild Bill Hickocks history.
JohnBiltz
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Hmmm, an M60 machine gun is firing about 600 rounds a minute or ten a second, .1 seconds per round. Not saying it can't be done, I've seen harder things on impossible shots. I'm just not sure it should be a goal. I can empty a G26, ten shots at 7 yards in about 6 seconds in a lot smaller group than that pretty routinely and I don't consider myself to be good. I'm really trying to bring that time down a little and keep it in a 3 inch group. Repeatable 2 inch groups, 10 shots in 5 seconds at 7 yards would make me very happy. I'd probably hang the target on my wall.
bluetopper
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I pause just long enough between shots to let the slide cycle and load another cartridge.
With my revolvers, I don't have to pause at all.
With my revolvers, I don't have to pause at all.
Red Cent
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Gunzee, there are a number of cowboy shooters who can draw at the beep, dump five in that target, holster, draw a second pistol and dump five. The best can do this just under three seconds. Be aware that they are cocking the pistol for each shot and the time includes reaction time, reholstering and another draw.
ArchAngelCD
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That's still very fast but I jave seen some of the SASS shooters do some very fast shooting. (even though it's light ammo)
The fast thing I've done on the clock was at an IDPA meet. Three yards, three targets, two rounds each center mass. We started with our hands up as though being robbed, on the buzzer we were to draw and fire. I managed 2.78 seconds, all in the -0 rings, with the S&W 1911 9mm Pro Series I carry for work and a Safariland 6377ALS.
REAPER4206969
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Good to have you back John.
sturmgewehr
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I think my videos can explain it better than I can with text.
FNP 45:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T35y3H6Sic
1911:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm4BcGjvZ7Q
I'm obviously a little faster with the 1911 given I've been shooting the for over 20 years.
I shoot as fast as I can and still hit the target. If I start to miss, I slow down. Over the years I've settled on a comfortable speed with the 1911 (seen above) and probably won't push myself much further. I'm getting old and honestly, nothing is to be gained by going faster, for me. I'm not a competition shooter and practice only for defensive purposes.
FNP 45:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T35y3H6Sic
1911:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm4BcGjvZ7Q
I'm obviously a little faster with the 1911 given I've been shooting the for over 20 years.
I shoot as fast as I can and still hit the target. If I start to miss, I slow down. Over the years I've settled on a comfortable speed with the 1911 (seen above) and probably won't push myself much further. I'm getting old and honestly, nothing is to be gained by going faster, for me. I'm not a competition shooter and practice only for defensive purposes.
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