Snubnose Lovers may want to try this

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I will provide a copy of the video to anyone who wants one via e-mail, as soon as it's made...Even the nay sayers...Couldn't hurt to look, maybe at the very least have a good laugh on me...Doc:D
 
I'm with Vern on this one. The method he explains is the one I use. Simple and quick. 24 rounds in 19 seconds using standard HKS loaders.
 
Ok I made 4 videos showing the technique as describe above...I'll be more than happy to e-mail it to you if you send me your e-mail addy, either PM it to me, or send it to my e-mail addy [email protected], and I'll get it out to right away....please excuse the poor vids as the equiptment used was not state of the art...but they get the point across...Enjoy....Doc:D
PS: I already sent it to those who gave me their e-mail addy prior to making the videos...check your e-mail
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Looks like an interesting technique. I’m going to try to get it down. I carry speed strips because of bulk, but this might work. I am an old fart, but willing to learn something new if it works. I hope I never reloads, but one never knows.
 
I don't want to get in the middle of which way is fastest or best, but my question is, if you are carrying a 'snub' nose, you are probably not going to need a reload.
If you do, you are in the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong weapon.Just my thoughts.
 
I reload with moonclips in under four seconds, I'm not any good at it.

Of course, moonclips are a lot harder to carry/conceal than speed strips.

But overall, I think the odds of my survival depending upon being able to quickly reload a snub nosed revolver are, well, slim.

As you were!
 
For some time the Old Fuff has labored under the impression that acquiring any combat-related skill is beneficial because the circumstances under which one may have to defend themselves is unpredictable. I agree that it might not be necessary to rapidly reload a snubby (or for that matter any handgun), but being able to do so is not a sin, and lacking the skill might prove to be fatal. :uhoh:
 
I'm too old and been reloading the same way for way too many years to change now. I am not criticizing it for those who can make it happen but I just don't believe it'll work for me. Had the same problem when I shot IDPA and they kept yelling at me for spinning my .45 to reach the magazine eject button. Too old and set in my ways I guess
 
The fastest, most secure, and for me most natural seems to be to leave the snubby in my right hand, use my right thumb to push the latch forward and my trigger finger to open the cylinder and hold it steady. Then to hit the ejector with my left hand and then get the safariland speedloader in my left hand and load, drop the speedloader and close the cylinder with my left hand and resume my firing grip.

The gun stays firmly in my firing hand.

Since I pocket carry in my right front pocket and have the speedloaders in my left front pocket, it is an easy way to load.

If I want more than 2 speedloaders, I found a $2 camera case at WalMart that holds 6 safariland speedloaders and is totally unobtrusive on a belt. I put it on the left also to use the same mechanics.

One other thing that seems to help speed in loading is to use Speer Gold Dots or other jacketed ammunition in the speedloaders. I carry Remington soft lead 158 grain SWCHP +P in the snubbies; but they do not slide in quickly from the speedloader.

I am sure we have all worked out something that is satisfactory for us; but it is good to hear from others and try some new things.

Dave
 
I'm not advocationg not practicing reloading, I do that all the time, including in the dark.(careful with the comments here)--LOL
Just that most will not need a reload with our 'pocket' carries and if we do, we are in the wrong situation.
Practice is a good thing.
 
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For some time the Old Fuff has labored under the impression that acquiring any combat-related skill is beneficial because the circumstances under which one may have to defend themselves is unpredictable. I agree that it might not be necessary to rapidly reload a snubby (or for that matter any handgun), but being able to do so is not a sin, and lacking the skill might prove to be fatal.
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The odds of me being in a gunfight are microscopic. The odds of me needing to reload in a gunfight are even smaller. And the odds of me needing to reload a snub nose in a gunfight -- considering that I own a single snub nose that hasn't actually worked correctly within the last few years -- are so small that I can't think of anything less likely with which to illustrate it.

Aside from that, your point is well taken. :)
 
The odds of me being in a gunfight are microscopic. The odds of me needing to reload in a gunfight are even smaller. And the odds of me needing to reload a snub nose in a gunfight -- considering that I own a single snub nose that hasn't actually worked correctly within the last few years -- are so small that I can't think of anything less likely with which to illustrate it.
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My chances of getting involved in a defensive shooting are about the same as yours - although I am more likely to be found with a snubby.

My point was met to be: If you have learned a skill you can use it if you have to. If you haven't learned it you won't be able to use it, no matter what. I am still trying to learn things that I'll probably never use, simply on the very,very remote chance that I might.
 
I did watch the video and it did give me a better understanding on how this quick reload would work. It will take me some time to try and master his technique - but I am going to give it a try and see how I make out.
 
I have reloaded all DA revolvers the same way as Vern Humphreys. I see no need in having a special way for a snubby. Besides there seem like to many wasted motions so I can't see any gain in speed over the way most of us reload revolvers. I know there are more than one way to skin a cat but this sounds like you are using a dull knife.
Set revolver in palm of off hand. Manipulate cylinder release with strong side thumb unless you have a DW then you use the off hand's thumb. Take all your fingers (or as many as you can get in the window) and punch the cylinder out of the window and hold the cylinder in that position. Invert revolver till the muzzle points up and punch the ejector rod with the off hand's thumb. At the same time grab the reload with the strongside hand. If the ejection is sticky then use the strongside hand to whack the ejector rod. Now rotate the offhand hand till the muzzle points down and insert the reload with the strongside hand. Close the cylinder with the offhand's thumb while dropping reloading device if one is used and reaquire your grip with the strong hand.
 
Long-winded anecdote of questionable merit

While training for concealed carry permit in CT in the early 80's, I was taught a similar method that we also used as armed security at a Nuclear Facility. When the last round in the cylinder was fired, you push the cylinder release with your right thumb while rotating your left hand counter clockwise from the supporting grip position on the revolver. As you rotate the left hand, you use the middle and ring finger or the left hand to push open the cylinder, and hold it in the full open position. This action is done as you release the grip with your right hand, and reach down for a speed loader from you sam brown belt (speed loaders were usually carried in pairs just in front of the revolver holster). As the right hand was grabbing the speed loader, the left arm swings down to your left side and the left thumb briskly pushes the ejector rod, sending the casings a good distance behind you. As you bring the revolver back up with your left hand (still holding the cylinder open with you middle and ring fingers) you meet it with the right hand and the speed loader. After inserting the rounds, and dropping the speed loader, you grasp the grip with you right hand while pushing the cylinder closed by rotating you left hand clockwise around the bottom of the revolver and back into a supporting hold over the right hand.

It worked great if you were wearing a sam brown belt with the speed loaders in holders in front of the revolver holster (usually the baton was on the left, and the loaders on the right. I don't like the idea of flailing the pistol around, but the left hand grip thru the frame opening is as secure a hold as you can get. In addition to this, inserting the speed loader with the right hand places the revolver, and the speed loader in more natural wrist positions than if you point the pistol down with the right hand, and insert the loader with the left.

Obviously, this was an odd technique to be shown in a ccw course, since concealing a sam brown belt requires a paratrooper trench-coat, or a full pleated kilt worn just under the armpits (placing the sporan just over your solar-plexus). They claimed they were just covering all the bases by teaching this. They also laid out thirty pistols of various makes for us to try. It was a great course, giving us a decent familiarization with virtually every major make, caliber, and style of handgun at the time.

Later, while working Nuclear Facility Security, the same technique was recommended for handgun qualifications. This made sense, since we were issued eighteen rounds of 38 special ammo, and a S&W M10, and told we should expect hordes of terrorists armed with MP5,s and AK-47's to swarm the facility. This produced two reactions among the guards. Half wore civilian clothing under their uniforms, intending to shed all sign of resistance if a threat occurred, and flee the facility with the crowds of screaming targets. The other half smuggled in as many speed loaders full of +p ammo as their coffee thermoses would hold, and packed their pockets full after turn-out. I fell into the second group, but only after they refused to let me carry my Detonic Servicemaster as my service weapon with my Combatmaster as a backup.

Now, I carry a 637 iwb, with five spare rounds loose in my left front pocket. I'm not quite as paranoid as I was in my twenties, and have given up on auto loaders. Seems like auto loaders, cars, and life in general have all become far to complicated. I like the simplicity of a revolver (at least in function. I shudder when I remove a S&W's side plate). I'll still reach for a 1911, on occasion, but have a hard time stomaching the ridiculous prices most of them go for now. I feel quilty to confess it, but sometimes when I go for a walk I put an old-fashioned wooden slingshot in my back pocket (like Dennis the Mennis) and a handfull of subaru cv joint ball-bearing in my front pocket. I can usually group 5 shots in two feet at 50 yards, and the recoil ain't bad.

Gettin old, and cynical, in VT.
 
Here's a video...

This video comes from Jerry Miculek's Ultimate Advanced Revolver DVD. First they show him reload in regular speed, then you get a halfway decent side shot in slow motion. I just wish it was shot with a high speed camera.

Note that he does goof on his second string - nobody is perfect :eek:. It appears that he does not cycle the trigger all the way forward on string 2 between shots 1 and 2.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srM2qghDFuI

In the DVD, he does break down the reload into a step-by-step process, unfortunately I've never been able to find the clip online.


While training for concealed carry permit in CT in the early 80's, I was taught a similar method that we also used as armed security at a Nuclear Facility. When the last round in the cylinder was fired, you push the cylinder release with your right thumb while rotating your left hand counter clockwise from the supporting grip position on the revolver. As you rotate the left hand, you use the middle and ring finger or the left hand to push open the cylinder, and hold it in the full open position. This action is done as you release the grip with your right hand, and reach down for a speed loader from you sam brown belt (speed loaders were usually carried in pairs just in front of the revolver holster). As the right hand was grabbing the speed loader, the left arm swings down to your left side and the left thumb briskly pushes the ejector rod, sending the casings a good distance behind you. As you bring the revolver back up with your left hand (still holding the cylinder open with you middle and ring fingers) you meet it with the right hand and the speed loader. After inserting the rounds, and dropping the speed loader, you grasp the grip with you right hand while pushing the cylinder closed by rotating you left hand clockwise around the bottom of the revolver and back into a supporting hold over the right hand.
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This is basically the same method Jerry Miculek uses, except he ejects his cases while holding the gun in front of him. I use this technique, and it works very well for me. No, I'm not as fast as Jerry, but I can reload my revolvers in roughly the same amount of time it takes me to reload my single stack 1911.

This technique is not nearly as complicated as it appears to be based on the article in the OP. It takes some practice, and now anything else to me feels unnatural and overly complicated.

Here is another variation on this technique:

http://www.grantcunningham.com/revolver-reload.html
 
While the gun is spinning this way and that, are they kidding! Except for the spinning and winding up with the revolver itn a totally bad p[osition for a relaod (if I understood this convoluted spinning thing correctly) this is a typical combat reload. Why anyone would spin the revolver into the position described, mussle down, butt pointing away from the front of you is beyond me. The gun does not need to be spun to effectually and more quickly do a reload in my estimation of this method.

All the best,
GB
 
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