How I improved my Glock groups with a Sharpie (TONS OF PICS)

[iblong]

I use black only on the rears the only thing i want getting my attention is the front site.

 

[JDGray]

Combat sights have dots mostly because they cater to folks who demand them.

It is a control issue of wanting to look at the rear sight (the dots) and confirm that their alignment id "true". While that is how sight alignment is taught, it shouldn't be a goal, but rather a progression to seeing the aligned sights without looking at them.

At higher skill levels, sights are perceived as aligned and that perception cues the trigger press. This process is subconscious and frees the conscious to make the decision of when to fire on a target.

Multiple dots hinder this process and hence the development of the skill level of a shooter's ability to place accurate shots on target quickly

Exactly!!

One big dot on the front for SD usage

 

[rbernie]

 

[Inebriated]

^ 10-8 .156" rear?

 

[rbernie]

Novak milled to .175" by my local gunsmith. At arm's length, the dot fills the U more than the pic shows.

 

[9mmepiphany]

I'm pretty impressed with that sight picture.

The only thing that strikes me as odd is the top of the Big Dot being above the tops of the rear ears. I've been playing with sight perception a bit and have noticed my tendency to align, at speed, the bottom of the front dot with the bottom of the "U"...which would account for why my shots tend to strike in the lower part of the "-0" zone on an IDPA target

I think I'd tend toward using the Small Dot. I like to see more target and trust my subconscious to center the front blade in the rear notch

 

[revolvergeek]

I have been very pleased with the 10-8 brass bead front / plain black combo and the Trijicon HD sights. Both give you a very distinct front sight with a wide rear notch.

 

[ForumSurfer]

I prefer the same setup with all black rears. What works even easier than a sharpie on a Glock is to just knock the little booger out and put it in backwards. Voila, always black and solid black.

 

[rbernie]

The only thing that strikes me as odd is the top of the Big Dot being above the tops of the rear ears. I've been playing with sight perception a bit and have noticed my tendency to align, at speed, the bottom of the front dot with the bottom of the "U"...which would account for why my shots tend to strike in the lower part of the "-0" zone on an IDPA target

That's an artifact of the pic. It's HARD taking a pic with an iPhone in my left hand and the pistol in my right while focusing on the phone's screen - it was all that I could do to get the dot centered side-to-side when the metaphorical shutter snapped.

If you look in the pic, you can see the base of the dot below the front sight. As I shoot it, the dot is even with the top of the rear sight on a G19 when the bottom of the dot is just kissing the bottom of the U...

I will tell you flatly that I have tried just about every sight combo made, and all have worked ok in bright light or no light but given me issues under dim lighting - excepting this one. I am SOLD on this specific combo; nothing is faster and more confidence-inspiring when first finding the target and then finding the front sight...

 

[Inebriated]

I do like that sight picture a lot. How does it do at longer ranges?

 

[rbernie]

When I'm on a square range (which is most of the time, sadly), I only practice at 15yd and 25yd distances - focusing on defensive oriented shooting drills - so I can't speak to how well it does past those distances or outside of that shooting mode. For me, group sizes with this sight picture are equal to those achieved with a 10-8 front gold bead/plain black Heinie rear or similar. That really speaks to fact that my skill level is the limiting factor right now and not the sights themselves.

Moving fast (for me!), I can pretty well consistently chew a 6" circle at 15yards and slow fire can almost halve that if I can force myself to be more patient. Sadly, I tend to be of the nature that finds an approximate sight picture to be 'good enough' and sends it without waiting for that last little sight alignment that makes for wee tiny group sizes. This nature works well for me in wing shooting and stalking game in the brush, but it surely doesn't give me bragging rights on the range.

 

[9mmepiphany]

I have a 1911 that is set up very similarly...XS Small Dot (.135") combined with a .150" rear notch...but the gunsmith made the rear notch square bottomed, so it is a bit slower to align.

I've noticed that, at longer ranges, it takes extra time to decide where one the dot to hold the ears of the rear sight. I'll eventually either have the rear notch rounded off or the front sight replaced with a square top blade

 

[iblong]

I like the ameriglo I dot night sights,Wide rear u notch with large orange dot up front.Good combat sight with quick acusition night or day.I have these on my G19 and they work well for carry and IDPA.