how many DOCTORS are CCW?

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I'm a registered nurse.
I carry a gun.

If you are in health care, in any capacity and you want to help support the second amendment from within your profession, consider joining Doctors for Sensible Gun Laws.

DSGL lobbies and writes to health care professional organizations in an attempt to bring the anti-gun types in health care at least back to middle ground.

Here is an excerpt from a letter:
Because of this, we must use all the data available, lest we advocate something harmful. That is certainly the case with firearms. While criminal or seriously mentally-ill patients certainly shouldn't have access to a firearm, I don't want to be part of an organization that advocates mandatory waiting periods for gun purchases, only to have my defenseless patient be attacked or killed by her estranged husband on the 3rd day of her mandatory waiting period. Studies have shown that women that resist rape with a firearm are least likely to be harmed. How do I tell my female patients that my professional organization has kept them from using the best defense possible against a rapist?

And let's not forget that the Second Amendment is about the right of the people to defend themselves against tyrannical government. While such an out-of-control government may seem unlikely here in our relatively young country, once we surrender our rights to defend ourselves, we have also surrendered the rights of our heirs as well. If the people are disarmed, and 100 years from now the country is transformed into a dictatorship, it will have been our rash decision that left our great-great-grandchildren defenseless. As a physician, I think I need to play a role in preventing this, for the good of my patients.

And while you're discounting the idea that our government could ever become this controlling, do you think our ancestors would ever have imagined the governmental mandates imposed by Medicare, Medicaid, the ADA, the EPA, and OSHA? Or that the government would ever compile such a vast array of data on it's citizens? (Let's not forget that the Social Security Number was simply an account number, it was never meant to be a personal identifier, but it's usage in that role is now ubiquitous. The law says you are not obligated to use your SSN for anything but the Social Security program and taxes. Try not using it and see what happens. That was never envisioned by the politicians who created the Social Security program.)
 
Thanks for the link, XB, I'll contact them today.
As for the religious and moral arguments, the Catholic Catechism clearly states that self defense, even killing in self defense, can be justified. I wouldn't mistake obedience to God's will as pacifism. I don't think a pacifist would have given the instructions contained in Luke 22:36.
 
That's really interesting that an MRI could do that. I always knew that they were powerful magnets, but wow. I still haven't stepped into an MRI room yet, however, usually we just get to see the MRIs of patients after the fact - I've been down to radiology just once before, and that was to hear the radiologist analyze the results of a patient's stress test.

I remember when we had to enter a mass-spectrometer room in undergrad, they told us to remove all of our wallets and other metal items. Apparently the field that thing gave off was powerful enough to destroy all the magnetic strips on bank cards/drivers' licenses. I bet that would discharge any firearm around it as well!
 
My Kimber Ultra Carry II is always with me in my private clinic. Never know when some mug is gonna try to take me cash or think I might have drugs he could use. That big .45 bore tends to deter.
 
Thanks porkysan

I don't remember where I saw what I originally saw (it certainally wasn't what you found) but when I looked for more about that article but it never surfaced. I didn't think to search for information here. It is a very interesting and well written article.
 
I'm a current medical student, have had a CHL for nearly 2 years, and carry regualrly. Like so many others here though I cannot carry when at school or in the hospitals due to Texas's laws prohibiting lawful carry in a school or school activity. Hopefully those laws will soon change.

I have never had any instruction in our H&P class regarding asking patients about gun ownership. That may be a result of where the school is located, but if it were going to occur in Texas I would expect it here (probably the most liberal medical school in Texas).

I have met a couple of doctors who carry. One was an orthopedic surgeon on whose service I rotated. I had gotten the impression that he was very pro-gun, so when he asked if I hunt I replied that I'm not a hunter but I'm a shooter. We had a couple of good discussions regarding guns after that. The other was our neuropathology professor who gave us a lecture on the various types of firearms and the types of wounds they would create (easily one of my 2 favorite med school lectures, the other being a forensic pathologist). At the end he was giving some statistics about how many people are estimated to carry in their cars in Texas and said "It may surprise you who is carrying a gun," and projected on the screen a scan of his CHL card.

I am extremely circumspect about who knows I am a gun owner and that I carry. Nobody at school knows. I have heard people at school make ignorant and/or anti-gun comments and try to correct them. I wish I could stand up more for what I believe, but it is very hard as I tend to be a very privae person and also care too much about what people think of me.
 
I'm not a doctor, but my old man is, and he carries a 5 shot snubbie most of the time. He carries a G31 sometimes (traveling etc...)

He uses a Styer SPP in 9mm and a G31 for HD.

He always tells me (often enough that I believe him) that the bullets are his scalpel and he just has to "cut" his enemy in the right places to achieve the desired "stop." His understanding of anatomy, his first-hand experience gathered by operating on gun wounds, both combined with his consistent marksmanship have convinced me that he's just as deadly with his 9mm as most could be with any other caliber. In other words, his understanding of placement and effects of wounding goes way beyond mine.
 
Doctors and CCW

I'm a doc and I carry 24/7 in all places it's legal for me to do so. Doing no harm is, as previously mentioned, concerned with patient care. Popping some dirtball attempting to do harm to me, my family, friend and / or patients is not affected by the oath.
 
first year medical student

i carry my sig p239 everywhere i legally can, unfortunately i'm not allowed to carry on campus

as for letting people know whether or not i carry, if someone asks i tell them but i don't walk around waving it either...i'm not the most PC person that ever walked the earth and will defend what i believe in, if someone wants to argue with me or try to make me feel guilty for owning/carrying a weapon they're welcome to waste their breath
 
I have never heard of a Doctor being denied the right to carry. And i live in California!

Any doctor who has access to drugs will get theirs with no problem. even local pharmacy techs get it fairly easily in comparison to others.

Surgeons on the other hand might get second guessed but will ultimately get there CCW. I heard that a reasonable argument for this is that family members get pissed when doctors can't save their family member and might take it out on them for being a bad doctor.

Of course i am not a doctor yet i'm still in school.

And i may consider doing a stint in the army as a doctor.

something to consider: local hospital where i live is notorious for having gang bangers come by to finish off an already wounded gangster.

so when i'm done with school and take that oath...i plan to carry
 
After one round discharged, the weapon did not cycle, as the slide was caught by the thumb safety.

I always wondered if the slide would cycle if you somehow managed to fire the thing in the holster with the thumb-safety on... Sear failure... Cook-off... etc. I always assumed that I'd be going home with a perforated leg and a few broken ribs.
 
Whatever the story is behind that, I'm sure it involved a lot of hard work - congrats! :D
 
Lots of veterinarians carry too, I do. I know of one in Maryland who, with his wife, was killed in a robbery at his clinic 7 or 8 years ago, most likely by drug seekers. I knew him when I lived there, a peaceful, nice, hard working family man of, I believe, Indian descent. Defenseless, unfortunately. Vets often have controlled substances in their clinics and junkies and criminals know it.

We used to have people exhibiting drug seeking behavior using their animals as a front, trying to get anabolics (for the skinny dog), or ketamine, valium, painkillers, etc. "for their pet".

I am not in clinical practice right now but if I was I'd carry every day all the time at work.

Many MD's, chiropractors, etc. I know very well are pro 2A and either carry or are gun nuts or both . My kids ophthalmologist is our local NRA rep and works all the gun shows at the NRA booth-with his wife. When I go in for my boys' annual checkup we talk guns....

Lots of MD's I know are sheep, though. I guess like every subset of the population, it is a spectrum.
 
Another PA-C here, and I also carry 24/7, unless prohibited by law. To me, a hand gun has become my version of the old American Express Card ad- I don't leave home without it. I realized that this world has become a dangerous place, and I have to take an active roll in not only my defence, but my family's. The wake up call came when my wife and I were having lunch with a friend at a San Francisco fast food restaurant. W noticed a drunk man in the median on a very busy street. He would step off like he was going to walk in front of a car, then pull back. He would also stumble around, and almost fall into the roadway many times. I called 911, because I was afraid that this guy was either going to be hit, or cause an accident. I was placed on hold for over 5 minutes. I can imagine a frightened person trying to call for help with someone after her. I knew then that I could not count on the police to provide protection. While in California, I kept a shotgun around for home protection, and as soon as I moved to Nevada, I got a hand gun, and took a CCW class. I now have 4 hand guns, 2 shotguns (1 is a new pistol grip model), and an AR 15. In addition to Nevada, I also have a Utah and a Florida CCW, the combination allowing me to carry in over 30 states.
 
When I was still doing radiography in South Africa I carried 24/7 (even on hospital premises). It was just a matter of whether I had the mousegun or the 9mmP.
Many doctors out there carry, and many of them are reserve policemen too. I have personally covered an orthopaedic surgeon's back while he was leaving the emergency department because some low life threatened to take him out because he didn't like the treatment his friend had got. I have been on handgun and rifle courses that were made up entirely of medical staff, including doctors. Some of them were highly-skilled consultants.

Don't forget that doctors and other medical staff get abused and killed just like anybody else. We had an ENT consultant killed as he was driving off hospital premises: he was shot through the windscreen and could not be resuscitated. We've had an ER nurse shot in the face after an ATLS course. We've had assaults on staff in the hospital, we've had staff stabbed in the lifts in the hospital and we've had all manner of nastiness where medical staff could be hurt or killed.
So, I say let the doctor carry.

Don't forget one thing: if the doctor is killed or hurt, then indirectly all of his patients suffer too. He can't carry on his duties and another guy has to take over. It affects many people if you harm just one staff member in the hospital.
 
I have never heard of a Doctor being denied the right to carry. And i live in California!

must not have been in a county that does not issuse... like LA, Sac, most of the bay area, and several in the LA area.

Why should being a Dr have anything to do with rather or not they get a CCW? Compared to lots of other jobs, they are realativly safe( as a whole).
 
I am a respiratory therapist and LEO and I work in a very small hospital (25 beds) in rural Maine. I carry everywhere, all the time. I know several doctors with concealed carry licenses but the hospital I work at does not allow employees to bring "weapons" to work, including doctors. However, since I am also a police officer (and the closest thing we have to security) the hospital and I have a sort of "don't ask don't tell" agreement. The assumption is that I am armed but no one talks about it.

A sort of funny thing happened one day when a package needed to be opened in a hurry and another therapist couldn't get it. At work I carry a Kel-tec P3AT inside my scrub pants on one side and a HK automatic knife on the other. Anyway, I took my knife out, opened it and cut the package open. My boss was standing there and her eyes got wide and in a panicked voice she asked, "Is that a weapon?!". I replied, "No, it's a tool", and she sighed in relief and said "Oh, well that's okay, as long as it's not a weapon". I just shook my head and went back to work.
 
Tim:

My wife joined DSGL a few years ago, and has been barraged with fund-raising pleas and newsletters from The Claremont Institute ever since. The last straw was an invitation to their big annual dinner/fundraiser this past December where they were honoring their man of the year, Donald Rumsfeld. I found that quite unbelievable.

They had a direct link to Claremont when she joined, the organization was based (for mail) at Claremont, it doesn't seem to be now, though, but I am not sure what, if any, the association is now.
 
WC145, i was under the impression that LEO were immune to the no carry rules of hospitals/goverment property etc? i know they are in alabama
 
I am a resident at a large Florida hospital and have been carrying since I was a medical student. I cannot carry, though, on hospital grounds and have never seen a hospital that allows it. I am aware of one other resident and 3 attending physicians who shoot on a regular basis, though I do not know if they have carry permits.
 
My 70 y.o. Father, an Orthodontist, has his hangun permit and carries. To make it a family affair, so does my 68 y.o Mother, my wife, sister-in-law and her husband. Several of my Father's hunting buddies, all in the dental field, etc. Then again, we all live in beautiful crime-ridden Memphis.
 
My first cousin was an Orthopaedic Surgeon. One day he was driving and someone cut him off. He gave them the 1 finger salute. Those persons forced him to pull over and beat him up. Ever since then he carried. He passed away in 1999 but he always had a gun with him. He even slept with one under his pillow.
 
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