Washinton state non-resident CCW permits

[dogma512]

I spent a fair amount of time in Washington state every year (4-5 weeks) and I'm considering applying for a non-resident CCW. The Washington state gov CCW FAQ says that it can take up to 60 days for the CCW permit to be approved. Has anyone gone through this process? How long does it take and what happens if your out of the state when the permit is approved? How long do you have to pick it up? Will they mail it to you or can someone pick it up on your behalf like a family member (ya, right)?

 

[CleverNickname]

I got my non-resident WA CCW a few years ago. Once in Washington, just pick the nearest county sheriff's office (any sheriff will do non-resident permits). I got mine in just under 60 days. They mail it to you.

Now that Washington recognizes some out of state permits, a non-resident Washington permits makes less sense in my opinion. I'm going to let my Washington CCW lapse next year and get a non-resident Utah permit. I'll still be able to carry in Washington on the Utah permit and I'l gain Nevada too.

 

[1911RjB]

you do need to be finger printed, and they run back round checks.. it cost 60$ flat.. and takes between 30-60 days to receive you CCW after you apply.. its pretty painless, the fastest place to go in the state (or so i'm told) is King's County Sheriff's Office. Also its good for 5 years... any other questions PM me.

 

[Unisaw]

I applied for a non-resident permit through the Bellevue Police Department in 2003. It took only about 10 days to get my permit.

 

[TallPine]

What about Snohomish County?

Might be useful, since it seems I might have to be "commuting" to there every few weeks. Usually working 12 hr days while I'm there, though ....

 

[Cougfan2]

Got my permit through the Clark Count Sheriff's office earlier this year. Took a little under 60 days. Had to go get finger printed, but no real hassle.

 

[dogma512]

I received my permit in the mail yesterday but it's just a peice of paper in non-"credit card" format. Is it legal to laminate this thing so it doesn't fall apart?

 

[WSUZJer]

Yes, and for an extra dollar or two when applying they will do that for you. At least in Pierce County they did.

 

[ArchAngelCD]

dogma512,
Did you check if Washington honors your Hawaii permit?

 

[MillCreek]

dogma512,
Did you check if Washington honors your Hawaii permit?

I am pretty sure that there are no Hawaii carry permits.

What about Snohomish County?

Might be useful, since it seems I might have to be "commuting" to there every few weeks. Usually working 12 hr days while I'm there, though ....

Tallpine, you go to the county courthouse in downtown Everett and go up to the Sheriff's office to apply for a permit. I usually get my permit from them in less than a week. They are pretty efficient. Be advised that you go through a metal detector to enter the courthouse, so leave anything that would be screened out in the car.

 

[ArchAngelCD]

I am pretty sure that there are no Hawaii carry permits.

MillCreek,
This is directly from "Firearm Laws in Hawaii" on the Honolulu PD Site:
http://www.honolulupd.org/info/gunlaw.htm

Licenses to carry

Reference: HRS 134-9

No person shall carry concealed or unconcealed on the person a pistol or revolver without being licensed to do so under this section or compliance with section 134-5(c) or 134-6.

Note: There is no compact agreement between Hawaii and other states that would permit police officers on official assignment in Hawaii to be armed and exempt from the provisions of the Hawaii Revised Statutes relating to firearms.

From what they says there has to be a carry permit in Hawaii, no?

 

[MillCreek]

I have read elsewhere on the net that the statutory language on the ability to issue aside, as a practical reality, no carry permits are given in Hawaii, which is why I made the statement above. Massad Ayoob has written on this, and I think he said that the only two permits that had been granted were to the civilian armorers who worked for the Honolulu Police Department. Also, see http://www.ehow.com/how_2061094_get-permit-carry-concealed-weapon.html, noting this in particular: Hawaii is a restrictive "may issue" state. Laws for firearms permits are on the books (see the Hawaii State Statutes at www.mgawley.com for details) but permits are almost never granted. The following steps will show the official steps required to get a firearms permit in Hawaii.

From a February 2006 article in the Hawaii Reporter:

"In the last 15 years, no law abiding citizen applying for a permit to carry a concealed firearm in Honolulu has been granted one -- not one domestic violence victim, not one person whose life was in danger, not one person working where they may be robbed at gunpoint. And the police chief has no plans to change that under Hawaii’s current law, which says the police department’s highest officer "may issue" a concealed carry permit should he choose to do so.

That’s according to Honolulu Police Department Captain Raymond Ancheta, who testified at the Senate Intergovernmental Affairs Committee hearing Tuesday, Feb. 14, 2006, in opposition to SB 2531, which changes Hawaii’s law to read "shall issue" and become the nation’s 39th state to allow concealed carry of a firearm."

To my knowledge, to this day, no carry permits are given in Hawaii. If dogma512 is indeed a Hawaii resident, perhaps he can chime in with the current state of carry permits there. I go to Hawaii on business once a year, and as of last year, I was told by a member of the HPD that no carry permits are given out. I am going again next month, and will try to remember to ask again.

The first time I went to Hawaii on business and was wandering around downtown Honolulu, I was struck by the Japanese-language flyers, advertisements and sandwich boards for a couple of indoor ranges there. Apparently, Honolulu is one of the most common Japanese honeymoon destinations, with a couple of 747s coming in from Tokyo each day. And given the virtual prohibition on civilian firearms ownership in Japan, people love to come to Hawaii and shoot. So on the ads, you see these petite Japanese women with a big grin holding a large revolver. The owners of those ranges make a pretty penny from this tourism business.

PS: I just checked the Washington AG's website (http://www.atg.wa.gov/page.aspx?id=7772) on carry permit reciprocity, and even if the OP had a Hawaii permit, it is no good in Washington. Washington currently only recognizes reciprocity for the following states: North Carolina, Mississippi, Ohio, Oklahoma, Louisiana, Utah, and Michigan.

 

[dogma512]

To my knowledge, to this day, no carry permits are given in Hawaii. If dogma512 is indeed a Hawaii resident, perhaps he can chime in with the current state of carry permits there. I go to Hawaii on business once a year, and as of last year, I was told by a member of the HPD that no carry permits are given out. I am going again next month, and will try to remember to ask again.

I am an indeed a Hawaii resident and as noted already in this thread Hawaii is a "may" issue state but the issuances of permits is incredibly restrictive. The Honolulu Police Department (which covers all of Oahu as the City & County are a single entity here; The City and County of Honolulu), likes to state that no permits have been issued on Oahu but that's not an entirely accurate statement. I have been told directly by elected members of the State government that certain members of State government (the capital building is in downtown Honolulu) have been issued concealed carry permits in the past. According to the State Attorney Generals office, in 2006 one private CCW permit was issued on Kauai. The 2007 report should be issued around April.

http://hawaii.gov/ag/cpja/main/rs/sp_reports_0306/gunreg06.pdf

 

[MillCreek]

Dogma512, in reading that very interesting report from the AG office, so is a state firearms permit required for purchase or ownership of any firearm? Is this a one-time permit or does it have to be renewed periodically? Would that also include transactions between private parties?

I ask somewhat out of idle curiosity, since a few years ago, I was being heavily recruited by Queen's Medical Center for a position, and I considered it for a bit.

 

[dogma512]

Dogma512, in reading that very interesting report from the AG office, so is a state firearms permit required for purchase or ownership of any firearm? Is this a one-time permit or does it have to be renewed periodically? Would that also include transactions between private parties?

Once upon a time it wasn't so but now all firearms must be registered, even if your coming in from out of state. In order to acquire any firearm in State, including having an FFL receive for you, first requires a permit. Long gun permits are issued for one year at a time and are good for an unlimited number of guns. Handgun permits are issued one at a time to the serial number of the gun and have a 14 day waiting period. They also expire (become void) 20 days after the date of application. This is true for both private and dealer transfers. If the handgun is newly imported by a FFL you must wait for the dealer to first register it with the state, then you have to go in person to the police department and apply for a permit (fingerprinting for FBI background check, providing the names and addresses of your doctors for a mental health check etc.), you then have to come back to the police department 14 days later to pick up the permit, take the permit to the FFL and fill out an ATF 4473, then take the gun and the permit back to the police department to register the gun. So if you didn't already pick up on it, you basically have to purchase a handgun BEFORE you apply for the permit to acquire it or fill out the ATF paperwork. Basically we've had to learn to cope with the sytem we have and most people tend to stack up their purchases. For example, I find something to register every year 20 days before my long permit expires so I can apply for a new one at the same time, etc.

 

[ArchAngelCD]

WOW, so one of the disadvantages of living in paradise is the extremely restrictive gun laws. I'm sorry to hear you have to go through all of that dogma512.

In checking on the reciprocity laws and agreements between States I was very happy to find out my PA permit is good in a total of 26 States in the Union with 4 more in the works. Unfortunately NY and NJ aren't included and that's where I travel the most!!!! We can only hope things will get better but that will only happen when law abiding people like us speak up for our rights and tell our elected representatives how we feel.