How many Glocks do you own?

[k soze]

I started this thread to give the Glock camp something to do besides wave the Glock Flag in the “How Many 1911s do you own” pole I started.

Couple of interesting things I noticed between the two poles
With Both Groups about 50% own more than one, but the 1911 owners are far more likely to collect them.
Glock and 1911 owners are just as likely to flame each other in a post about the others favorite pistol. Before I started the Gock poll I only saw the Glock fan boys chiming in on 1911 topics where they had nothing to add. 1911 fan boys seem to be just as bad.

Why all the hate? I have owned both, sold off my Glock in 1991, I have looked to purchase one as recently as last winter, I just don’t like the way they feel or point, so what personal preference.

The shooter not the gun is the difference in performance.

 

[David E]

I can't see the POLL on my phone, but I don't get the haters, either, regardless of which camp they're from.

Noted authority Ken Hackathorn, long time user and proponent of the 1911, said that if he could only have one handgun, it'd be a Glock 17.

I find the M&P series more ergonomic than any Glock, but that doesn't mean the Glock has been eclipsed in overall function and ease of maintenance. detail strip both and see which one has more tiny, essential parts.

I like the XD/XDm, also, but the factory will not sell you certain key parts. That removes it from serious consideration for some uses.

 

[helitack32f1]

I started this thread to give the Glock camp something to do besides wave the Glock Flag in the “How Many 1911s do you own” pole I started.

Couple of interesting things I noticed between the two poles
With Both Groups about 50% own more than one, but the 1911 owners are far more likely to collect them.
Glock and 1911 owners are just as likely to flame each other in a post about the others favorite pistol. Before I started the Gock poll I only saw the Glock fan boys chiming in on 1911 topics where they had nothing to add. 1911 fan boys seem to be just as bad.

Why all the hate? I have owned both, sold off my Glock in 1991, I have looked to purchase one as recently as last winter, I just don’t like the way they feel or point, so what personal preference.

The shooter not the gun is the difference in performance.

A lot of the hate may come from the constant use of the term "fanboy". Everytime it is used, it is used to imply that there is something wrong with owning a particular gun, liking it and daring to defend your choice of that gun. I am now convinced that term is only used by people with a firearm inferiority complex.

It would be interesting to learn a few more things in your poll's. I bet you will find that Glock owners are more likely to own various types of handgun where the 1911 owner is more likely to disqualify themselves from using an entire class of handgun, just because of the material it is made out of or because it is different.

I think most of the irritation Glock owners feel comes from the people who have never owned a Glock, shot a Glock or even held a Glock, telling how they will never own such a horrible object! Or, people who apparently only owned the first one and gave it up in 1991. It is kinda like trying a revolver 20 years ago and determining I will never own one. I do not choose to be so self-limiting.

As for grip angle. This one is getting tiring. I think people who claim grip angle as a reason for disliking Glocks are just looking for excuses. It is either that, or they are admitting to an inability to adapt and an inability to understand that you still line the sights up the same way regardless of grip angle. I would like to know how many people that complain about grip angle own a Ruger MK series of .22, Colt woodsman, Luger style gun, or just about any serious .22 target gun or would like to own any one of these guns that have far more extreme grip angles.

When it comes to 1911 owners being more likely to "collect" well that probably happens for the same reason museums tend to collect and display archaic, quaint olden-days, obsolete technology rather than recent, innovative technology.

I am qualified to say these things because I have once owned a 1911.

 

[k soze]

You sound like a fan boy You are slamming the perceived other side, with a personal attack on me for using the term "fan boy". I bet you think 9mm is as good as 45 ACP.... I am really kidding here, I know for a fact each one punches a hole in a piece of paper, but the .45 hole is bigger.... still kidding!!!

Aren't we all just gun enthusiasts? I guess this is Like Ford vs Chevy when I was a race mechanic in the late 80s. I was just a kid in my late teens then... hey wait, maybe thats the issue here.

 

[Just One Shot]

You left out an option in your pole (0). I've owned at least 5 Glocks of many different flavors - 21 SF, 26, 2-30's, and a 36. I've tried to like them because of their reputation for reliability but just can't stand the way they fit my hand. All of mine have been 3rd Gen, I've thought about checking out the 4th Gen but I've been hearing complaints from long time Glock guys so I've stayed away from them.

 

[David E]

If Glock had REAL replaceable backstraps, to include a flat one, they'd finally reach the "perfection" they've claimed for so long.

Evenso, they're still very good guns.

 

[ForumSurfer]

David the backstraps do pretty much stink. I like the gen4's because of the way they feel with no backstraps at all, so it's a non-issue for me.

As for perfection...that's just silly marketing like many other companies use.

 

[wickedsprint]

David the backstraps do pretty much stink. I like the gen4's because of the way they feel with no backstraps at all, so it's a non-issue for me.

As for perfection...that's just silly marketing like many other companies use.

Agree. No backstrap is my preference on mine as well.

A flat backstrap? I can't imagine that working well given the width, although it is my preference on my 1911s.

 

[ApacheCoTodd]

Another poll without an option for me to click.

I own less than one because in a fit of bad judgement, I let the only one I've owned to date slip away. It was whatever model that small .45 ACP was. I just backed into it, never shot it (for all the standard "Gock denier" reasons) and then after I firmed up and agreed to the deal on selling it I took it out a couple of times to reinforce my Glockhate while waiting to ship it since the buyer was dragging his feet on getting an east coast FFL.

Of course, I was surprised to really, really like the pistol from a functioning, accuracy and handling point of view... still aesthetically offensive, but did I regret agreeing to sell it. I even grew to appreciate that wonky trigger and realized my opinion on it was based upon dry firing which is very different from the feel of live fire.

 

[basicblur]

Waaaaaay back when I bought my first polymer, I handled 'em, came home and did my research (note to newbies - research first, buy second), went back to the shop and brought home the Sigma.

I'm cornfused - since everybody kept telling me it was just a Glock copy/ripoff, do I vote as owning 1/2 of a Glock or ?

 

[WinThePennant]

Waaaaaay back when I bought my first polymer, I handled 'em, came home and did my research (note to newbies - research first, buy second), went back to the shop and brought home the Sigma.

I'm cornfused - since everybody kept telling me it was just a Glock copy/ripoff, do I vote as owning 1/2 of a Glock or ?

No, but you do get the first vote for bad judgment.

 

[helitack32f1]

If Glock had REAL replaceable backstraps, to include a flat one, they'd finally reach the "perfection" they've claimed for so long.

Evenso, they're still very good guns.

I am not sure about all the dislike on here about the non-real backstraps. They work as advertised and allow different options for different people. I have average size hands but prefer the biggest backstrap for my G17. When I get a compact Gen4, I will most likely use it with no backstrap because that feels better on that particular gun.

No matter what gun you buy that comes with backstraps, you will find the one set that works for you and the rest are worthless. It just so happens that most like the Gen 4 without any backstraps. But I like the option of using the others as well.

 

[David E]

The problem with the Glock backstraps is that all of them retain the hump. This is the singular issue 1000's of people have spent 1000's of dollars to remove.

People haven't complained that the G-17 trigger reach is too long or that the grip is too small or too large. They've complained that it points high. This is due to the hump.

IF they'd listened to the public, they would've had an option for a flat backstrap.

 

[WinThePennant]

I really don't understand the vitriol against the "Glock hump."

The "Glock hump" is what makes the gun fit my hand so well. The curvature fits nicely in the palm of my hand where thumb meets palm.

 

[helitack32f1]

The problem with the Glock backstraps is that all of them retain the hump. This is the singular issue 1000's of people have spent 1000's of dollars to NEEDLESSLY remove.
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There, I fixed it for you! Seriously though, A flat BS would have been a good option. However, I bought my first Glock in 1992 and never became aware of something called a "hump" until I was 'enlightened' by the interwebs. Oddly enough, I just trained with the gun and learned how to shoot it as designed. Just like people should do with any gun. It amazes me how many people will complain rather than realize all you have to do is get used to it. It really isn't that hard.

 

[theQman23]

2 glocks, a 27 in .40 and the .45 full sized 21

 

[theQman23]

I agree with David, they should have listened, and had a flat backstrap, but they didn't. I modded both of my gen 3 units by pie cutting the hump on the sides, mashing them flat, plasti welding and trimming, then stippling to cover the mess. They turned out nice and uniformed looking, but it took me 2 hours per gun.

 

[meanmrmustard]

Holy hell! Was all that worth it? Icant imagine the trade off being fair!

 

[David E]

There, I fixed it for you! Seriously though, A flat BS would have been a good option. However, I bought my first Glock in 1992 and never became aware of something called a "hump" until I was 'enlightened' by the interwebs. Oddly enough, I just trained with the gun and learned how to shoot it as designed. Just like people should do with any gun. It amazes me how many people will complain rather than realize all you have to do is get used to it. It really isn't that hard.

Then you don't understand the problem

If you started with a Glock, then you never noticed the hump. If you're a casual, occasional recreational shooter, then you never noticed the hump

But if you have decades running a 1911 to a high level several times a month, you're immediately aware of the hump.

Those that smugly say, "just get used to it" usually fall into the two categories cited.

Slowfire, the hump is inconsequential.

Expecting to draw and hit the "A" zone on a 7 yd IPSC target in 3/4 of a second, then the hump starts to matter.

Can the hump be accommodated? Yes, but for some, it takes dedicated effort.

The fact remains, Glock missed the mark with the Gen 4 backstrap.

 

[meanmrmustard]

Then you don't understand the problem

If you started with a Glock, then you never noticed the hump. If you're a casual, occasional recreational shooter, then you never noticed the hump

But if you have decades running a 1911 to a high level several times a month, you're immediately aware of the hump.

Those that smugly say, "just get used to it" usually fall into the two categories cited.

Slowfire, the hump is inconsequential.

Expecting to draw and hit the "A" zone on a 7 yd IPSC target in 3/4 of a second, then the hump starts to matter.

Can the hump be accommodated? Yes, but for some, it takes dedicated effort.

The fact remains, Glock missed the mark with the Gen 4 backstrap.

You and I actually agree for once. Well said.

 

[beatledog7]

I own just one, and it simply works.

If I were rolling in dough and had no other needs I'd have a complete set of full-sized models (20 and 21 in SF versions) for ultimate versatility. I've considered the subcompacts for CCW, but they're too chunky.

 

[wickedsprint]

I was considering a 21 gen 4 for IPDA or whatever they do at local range. These comments make me want to research it more.

I did notice after shooting the Glock a lot, that I was shooting my M&P very low.

 

[David E]

If you're thinking G-21, consider the "SF" version. The grip is enough different to matter, especially if you shoot very low with your other guns after shooting Glox. It may turn out to be the only .45 acp you "need"......

 

[Ben86]

I did notice after shooting the Glock a lot, that I was shooting my M&P very low.

Same here. I switch between my M&P9 and G19 occasionally. During the first few training sessions I either point too low or high. After about 10 minutes of training it goes away and my mind goes back to either "M&P mode" or "Glock mode." It's really amazing how "pliable" muscle memory is. It just takes repetition.

 

[blue german]

Three...I own 3.

1) A 1st Gen 17 SN AGXXX new...unfired in the box. I bought new from Glock in Smyrna.

2) 1st Gen 17 L SN DA2XX bought from original owner 12 years back.

3) 2nd Gen 19 an ex-DEA gun SN DR0XX mfg 1988 (it helps to have friends who work at Glock)

.......other than a 34 and a Model 26, I'm done......