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Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by G'dale Mike, Apr 7, 2013.

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  1. G'dale Mike

    G'dale Mike Member

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    Have had shooting "friends" approach them about reloading "a few" rounds for them? How do you feel about it, knowing it may be difficult to replace the powder and primers you use? I told these folks i'd be happy to help them out, but they will have to find the formulas, (i'll have to verify the formulas researching them in my loading books) , and provide all components. I figured that was fair enough ,,, funny, i aint heard back from none of them!
     
  2. Walkalong

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    I don't do it for 99% of the people I know. I do let friends shoot my reloads at the range sometimes.
     
  3. Arkansas Paul

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    I'm with Walkalong. The vast majority of the time it's a no.
    However, if I'm friends with the person, I have no qualms inviting them over and hanging out in the man cave and loading a few rounds together.
     
  4. beatledog7

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    I reload for one other person besides myself, and he's my brother and best friend.

    I suggest you have them come to your bench and you walk them through the process, with them dropping the powder and pulling the handle. And providing the components, of course.
     
  5. jim243

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    Are you saying that you have had friends approch YOU about reloading for THEM?

    Either way the answer would be NO. If for some reason their rifle or pistol should malfunction, I don't want to be even considered the cause. It is a good way to lose a friend or that friend's trust.

    I only use reloads (Mine) and have had friends offer ammo to me to try out. I will not put anyone's reloads in my guns (I value my guns too much to take a chance). I find a excuse if they ask how did I like their rounds or just lie about it. At best I will nock apart their rounds and use the components for my own reloads.

    Just my view on it.
    Jim
     
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    I reload for three other people: me, myself, and I. No others, no exceptions.
     
  7. bds

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    +1. I do not shoot anyone's reloads in my pistols.

    For many reasons, I won't sell, trade or let any of my reloads out of my sight.

    But family relatives, friends, neighbors and coworkers are welcome to join me to the range and shoot with me using my pistols (or their pistols I had a chance to barrel drop test/function check). Reloads leftover come back home with me.

    I always offer to mentor how to reload their own and for those interested, help with the initial equipment/component set up.

    I do make an exception for my sister who lives quite far away and she understands my reloads are only for her range practice and she uses factory JHP for SD/HD purposes. I have tested my reloads thoroughly in her pistols.

    Yes, the current shortage has increased requests by people unable to find ammunition for me to provide them with my reloads but my answer is the same - come to the range and shoot with me or I will teach you to reload. When I explain the reasons why, they either gladly join me to the range or learn to reload.
     
  8. mljdeckard

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    The list of people for whom I will reload is exactly the same length as the list of people who I know and trust well enough to use deadly force on their behalf. It's a VERY short list.

    On the other hand, I will instruct anyone who thinks they can learn from me, but they will need to bring their own materials. I'll suck new guys in letting them think they are saving money. :)
     
  9. J2FLAN

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    I am in the "no-never" crowd, just too much risk, maybe your reload more likey, their messed-up gun, but something bad could happen. I will help and advise, but they do the reloading.
     
  10. ArchAngelCD

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    Like the others, only family members shoot my reloads and I don't shoot anyone's reloads either. There is just too much to lose.
     
  11. jmorris

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    If anyone shoots my guns they shoot my reloads.
     
  12. MK75

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    When I reload my handgun loads, I always use the minimum powder charge (I am reloading to save money) to the longest recommended OAL as verified by at least 3 sources. That being said, I would not let others shoot my reloads. There is just to much that could go wrong. Would I shoot someone else's reloads..? Heck NO. Not now, not never.
     
  13. FROGO207

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    I have had MANY people ask if I will reload a bunch of ammo for them.:eek: They always offer to pay for materials.:mad: I always offer to have them come over and learn how to do it themselves using my tools and pay for materials used for a start. Then if they like it I will help them set up their own reloading kit. Most will never show up in the first place as all the wanted was a bunch of free ammo. One in ten turns out to become a reloader themselves. I have taught four to reload since the election last fall as well as helping to put on a reloading class for 12 members at the local gun club this spring. The risk is too great when reloading for others without the FFL license and good insurance behind you IMHO.
     
  14. wally247

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    I made up a bunch of 9mm for my uncle and aunt last week.

    My uncle is a 3 middle-east tour Marine Sniper vet and he is teaching his wife to shoot and is going to take the CCW course with her soon. Well they have a 9mm and can't find ammo, so I made some up for them to practice for their course.

    Would I do it for someone who isn't a friend or relative? Not likely. But for a situation like this I don't have a problem with it. Of course YMMV, I can already see I'm in the minority.
     
  15. bds

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    Things are fine until something bad happens and somebody gets hurt.

    I think majority of posts are being made to prevent such an incident from getting "ugly".

    Hey, things happen - when you are reloading.

    Show of hands, how many of you reloaders had squib rounds (no powder charge) where the bullet got dislodged in the barrel?

    When this happens, we may be sensitive of the dreaded "pop" sound instead of the anticipated "bang" and no slide cycling from a squib round and not fire another round. But another person not as familiar/aware may rack the slide (Remember the Tap-Rack-Bang drill they teach you to clear a semi-auto jam/misfire? You DO NOT want to do that with a squib round!) and fire another round behind the bullet dislodged in the barrel ... this will ruin your day or more. Now you are looking at possibly replacing a very expensive firearm or paying for medical bills etc. not to mention possible ruined friendships/relationships.

    Unless you are really confident with your reloads and have reloading practices and QC steps that will prevent squib/undercharged rounds from occurring, I would hesitate to have anyone else fire your reloads. I mean, KaBooms happen on a regular frequency and not just with Glocks ... and not necessarily by new reloaders. ;)
     
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    i have been asked dozens of times if i'll sell some reloads. i politely decline and just say that i'd feel terrible if i made a mistake and blew up their gun or got them injured. i'll offer to let them come over for a lesson and then to let them use my equipment, but most decline. i think the reason is they've tried to read up on how to reload, but got overwhelmed and just gave up.

    only person i've reloaded for is my father-in-law. he likes 110 gr .30-06 loads (kinda dumb imo, but i don't argue) and whenever he runs low, i'll load him up a box for christmas, his bday, father's day, whatever. before i started reloading, he would just buy reloads from some guy he knew.

    i've had some friends come over and use my equipment to load their own components under my supervision. i show them the relevant data in the manuals and let them decide. usually they'll trade me some range brass they picked up or something. i don't mind hanging out and teaching folks. sometimes it results in them getting their own equipment.
     
  17. Reefinmike

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    MK75-why would you skimp on powder? for 38 spl using hp38, its by far the cheapest component at under a penny per charge. I think a $16 jug of powder lasts for 2,200 loads.

    Ill let my brother shoot my reloads in my guns. I give a buddy a box of 38 spl every once in a while but I wont let him just grab any random box of ammo out of my stash. Im careful while reloading on the turret press, but when im giving someone a box of ammo, I will do it "single stage mode" and set all casings in the loading block to very clearly visually verify that there is not a squib to be or double charge.
     
  18. KansasSasquatch

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    I won't reload for "friends" but I reload for my dad. I also occassionally reload a few rounds for FRIENDS if they pay for all of their components, but only once. After that they have to come over and learn. They know my equipment is always available if they give me a little notice. So far only 3-4 are interested in getting their own equipment.
     
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    Other than family members and a couple of long time friends, which I load for regularly, all others I insistent that they sit down and get their hands dirty, so too speak. It's rare though when I give out my reloads to others, and only under certain circumstances. Years ago I used to be a lot more careless in this respect, but now days I'm not as quick to offer. The fact that I've never had an incident does not protect me from someone running them through weapon in poor condition, or doing something to cause a mishap. And I would also think it would be very difficult and expensive for me, to prove that it wasn't my ammo that caused, or contributed to an incident.

    GS
     
  20. 788Ham

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    Nope ! If you want to shoot some of my ammo, in my revolvers, Okay. However, if you think I'm going to "help you out of a crisis", load up several boxes and let you walk off for free? Ain't gonna happen slick! If either of my brothers wanted some help with cartridges, come on over, bring your powder, bullets and primers, we'll sit down and reload. If you aren't able to perform those duties and show up with whats needed...... get your skates sharpened son, gonna be a cold day in Hell.
     
  21. JerryND

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    My son and I shoot on the same trap team. I load all the shells. He just asked to come over and learn how to load shells. Yippee. My Sil uses my 30-06 for deer and my Hand loads. Years ago I loaded 6mm Rem for a friend. He passes away 3 years ago and Fri I bought his rifle from his widow. Looking forward to loading for it . Will pass it to my Sil. Others have asked, answer has always been no.
     
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    The answer is NO!
     
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    I reload for my rifles, and whoever uses my rifles has to use my reloads. Outside of that, no, I don't reload for anyone else. However, if someone in my family asked me to, I would.

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    My guns my reloads that's it. No exceptions. I don't shoot other folks reloads. No exceptions.
     
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    Everybody who knows I reload has, at some point, asked me to load for them. I always ask what caliber, and then tell them I don't load that caliber. Seems the easiest way to end the conversation IMHO, no argument, no having to explain what powder and bullets cost, no "I won't blame you if something goes wrong" etc.

    I also won't tech anybody to load who hasn't done the research themselves and has a good grasp on the process. I can help you figure out a good load for yor gun, or how o set up your press, but if you don't even understand why powder charge is important, I want nothing to d with that trainwreck in the making.
     
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