How to build gun safe under stairs
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If I remember my commercial building codes 2 layers of 5/8" GWB Type X will give you 45 minutes of fire protection. However in commercial buildings the sheetrock is used for vertical walls and metal studs.
Certaindeaf has it right. In a fire everything is going to fall into a pile of a hot bed of burning coals, ashes and debris that is going to need a lot of water and time to cool down. If in the basement it is going to fill up with several inches (or more?) of water that the fire department pumps onto the fire. Either way it is going to be a long time before you will be able to try to recover any valuables.
Trust me. We lost just about everything in a fire once and there is little left.
I am considering installing above ground safe room in the garage of the next home we buy even if the house has a basement. A above ground safe room can be multi-functional as a tornado shelter, vault for storage of guns and valuables such as jewelry, coins, and protection against intruders.
It avoids all of the problems with valuables in the basement in the event of fire and is handicap assessable. When you compare the cost of a safe room to two good quality gun safes the safe room imho is a much better value.
A good builder can help you come up with solution for your particular home.
Certaindeaf has it right. In a fire everything is going to fall into a pile of a hot bed of burning coals, ashes and debris that is going to need a lot of water and time to cool down. If in the basement it is going to fill up with several inches (or more?) of water that the fire department pumps onto the fire. Either way it is going to be a long time before you will be able to try to recover any valuables.
Trust me. We lost just about everything in a fire once and there is little left.
I am considering installing above ground safe room in the garage of the next home we buy even if the house has a basement. A above ground safe room can be multi-functional as a tornado shelter, vault for storage of guns and valuables such as jewelry, coins, and protection against intruders.
It avoids all of the problems with valuables in the basement in the event of fire and is handicap assessable. When you compare the cost of a safe room to two good quality gun safes the safe room imho is a much better value.
A good builder can help you come up with solution for your particular home.
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For horizontal-style positioning, you might also look at one of those Knaack job site tool boxes and bolt it down
http://www.knaack.com/jobsite_storage_equipment/view_products.php?p_id=55
Then customize the interior
http://www.knaack.com/jobsite_storage_equipment/view_products.php?p_id=55
Then customize the interior
I ended up putting in 2 thicknesses of fire rated drywall inside the underside of the stairs, a 75 min rated commercial safe with relockers and making doors with fire rated drywall on the inside , a nondescript utility lock and it all disappears. Kept it completely secret and doors stay closed.
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If you can bring enough force and have enough time, any safe can be compromised. After all, we got into all the government vaults in Iraq, no? Re post #13, simply insure the safe itself, let the insurance company pay me to repair or have the unit replaced. If the unit is good enough, there may be no need to insure, and list, the contents, but do insure the safe.
I sell safes, not Residential Security Containers. We can also do vault doors, and do them in custom sizes. But, for a custom vault door that's worth a hoot, $2,000.00 is the down payment.
Oh, and if you do the concrete block with rebar & pour, I wouldn't worry too much about adding layers of gypsum wall board. Basically it's a flame barrier, not dense enough to be a real good heat sink. Adding it beyond the block, bar, and pour would be more trouble than it's worth.
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If you can bring enough force and have enough time, any safe can be compromised. After all, we got into all the government vaults in Iraq, no? Re post #13, simply insure the safe itself, let the insurance company pay me to repair or have the unit replaced. If the unit is good enough, there may be no need to insure, and list, the contents, but do insure the safe.
I sell safes, not Residential Security Containers. We can also do vault doors, and do them in custom sizes. But, for a custom vault door that's worth a hoot, $2,000.00 is the down payment.
Oh, and if you do the concrete block with rebar & pour, I wouldn't worry too much about adding layers of gypsum wall board. Basically it's a flame barrier, not dense enough to be a real good heat sink. Adding it beyond the block, bar, and pour would be more trouble than it's worth.
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get the fiberglass fibers in your concrete. its a real fun job to break once it cures.
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