How to Carry through NJ, MD, DE?

[winston smith]

I have a NY State CCW and Pennsylvania non-resident CCW. I am vacationing in Virginia Beach starting April 6th. Our one day travel route takes us through the People's Democratic Republiks of Jersey, MD and Delaware. Lock it up in a box? Ammo separate?

Of course, VA lets PA CCWs carry. Right?!?

Any helpfull hints to keep me from needing bail money?

Thanks!

 

[sjohn26]

Get Utah or FLA and have Del too-------

MD and NJ - Abandon Hope All ye Who Enter Here................

 

[Hungry Seagull]

Not quite abandon... in Maryland.... there are tons of backroads you use in the hollows and hills where there are no towns of any size large enough to support police. I can almost see in my mind a number of routes north and south through there avoiding larger towns and cities to get you into Virginia.

I would head down to Martinsburg WVa and scoot over to Harpers and work down to Opal Va near Fredericksburg and thence to Norfolk. It will take a while. But US 15, 17 and such are not too bad.

The problem is 12 miles of maryland on that I-81 or 24 miles of uphill, downhill and sideways to the east of that interstate on a two laner.

Let's say you got into Delaware. Great, but now you got Maryland's Eastern Shore all the way down to the Atlantic Ocean. ... Full of towns with roving packs looking for revenue.

Or you can just mail the weapons to a address via UPS and drive down anyold way you like. Just try to be there before the weapons arrive.

 

[Grey_Mana]

Maryland has several schools of thought:
If you are driving through, as an interstate traveller federal law preempts.

But if you do get stopped/have cause to use your weapon, the state police will be unsympathetic. You can have an unloaded rifle or shotgun (not short-barrel) beside you in the car with the ammo or loaded magazine right next to it. Pistols and short-barreled guns are 'regulated' - During transportation to and from the above places the handgun must be unloaded and carried in an enclosed case or enclosed holster. Also check the list of pistols that are illegal in MD. You can own & transport magazines > 20 rounds, as long as you aren't planning to sell them in MD.

http://www.nraila.org/GunLaws/ is useful.

On the other hand, Maryland laws happen to be illegal and unconstitutional (state and federal), so some people choose to exercise their rights in defiance of state law. I don't recommend it, but I've heard plenty of people claim to have gone their lives without ever interacting with law enforcement over it.

 

[BacSi67]

Traveling

I live in NJ but visit VA to see my son. I have a FL Carry License.
I must keep my pistol in the trunk in NJ, can put it on in DE, put it back in the trunk going through MD, and can finally put it on again in VA.
I just leave it in the trunk until I hit VA. Easier on the nerves. LOL
BacSi

 

[winston smith]

I'm driving a minivan! The Heat has me marked!

Maybe I'll put it under the child seat...

Thanks! Looks like my best bet for the trip through the occupied eastern zone is to hide it in a locked box in a suitcase.

If they stop me, I'll refuse to allow a search, and lawyer up.:banghead:

3 years and 9 months to D-day!

 

[Bionicrooster]

I just use a small plano pistol case with a lock on it, put it behind the drivers seat, with the shells or mag in the glove box. In nj as long as the pistol is in a locked case its no issue.

 

[ssjones]

I wouldn't sweat MD. If you are on I-81, it's all of 10-12 miles. Blink and you are through. Keep the speed at 60 mph and you'll go unnoticed.

 

[Jim K]

The best thing is to have the gun unloaded and locked in a case inaccessible to the people in the car (preferably the trunk, other places will do). Ammo is locked separately.

I don't recommend carrying on your person anywhere you don't have a permit. The FOPA does NOT cover carrying guns on the person; it was intended mainly for competition shooters to transport their target guns. If you are going to carry anyhow, then I agree with Frontgate1; just do it and hope you don't get caught.

The best way to avoid problems is still not to be stopped. So don't drive a red sports car at 105 mph through a school zone, waving your gun and yelling for the cops to "get me if you can."

Seriously, move with traffic, use signals when changing lanes, don't run stop signs or red lights, have an inconspicuous car, no provocative bumper stickers.

And not only keep the gun(s) and ammo locked away and out of sight, but keep gun stuff (speed loaders, extra magazines, copies of "Guns & Ammo") out of sight as well.

How often have you been stopped in your home state in the last, say, five years? If the answer is none, you probably will have no trouble in another state.

Jim

 

[lead-inspector]

The Heat has Me Marked?

How does "The Heat" have you marked? Where?

Steve

 

[winston smith]

Just do it and quit whining.

How does "The Heat" have you marked? Where?

Its a Minivan!!!

Ahh.. guys, this was a lighthearted RFI.

Thanks for the common sense ideas...I will be carefull, and not break the laws, however bad they are. Locked box. Thanks again.

 

[chris in va]

I just use a small plano pistol case with a lock on it, put it behind the drivers seat, with the shells or mag in the glove box. In nj as long as the pistol is in a locked case its no issue.

Careful with that. Technically it has to be 'out of wingspan', meaning out of reach ie in the trunk.

 

[Millwright]

JD<

I guess some local cops in NJ didn'[t read that decision - "nabbed" some guy enroute from ME to TX with guns in the car - for catching forty winks in some parking lot, according to the local papers of a few days ago.

Hell, I'd avoid the PDRNJ entirely on the trip proposed. Easy enough to do. >MW

 

[Daedalusnj]

Even better - he had 26 guns including a loaded handgun, not cased in the passenger compartment. According to the news (worth little) he also was carrying five 'assault weapons'.

This guy wasn't the sharpest crayon in the box: he chose to go to sleep in a bank parking lot in a suburban-rural area with uncased weapons in the back seat. Asking for trouble. On top of that he is an ex-LEO from Maine who was booted from there and has a record for whatever the legal term is for domestic violence with a firearm!


To the OP: Secure your weapon cased in the trunk or the rear of the vehicle if there is no trunk. The ammo must be stored separately from the weapon. Also, no ammo is permitted in a magazine - must be loose.

 

[NavyLCDR]

I just use a small plano pistol case with a lock on it, put it behind the drivers seat, with the shells or mag in the glove box. In nj as long as the pistol is in a locked case its no issue.

If you are going to rely on FOPA, this is not a legal method of doing so. The ammunition must be separated from the vehicle occupants the same way the gun is: IE locked in the trunk or locked in a case, NOT in the glove box.