bushmaster1313
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I can legally take a handgun from my NJ home to a PA gun show. But If I want to sell it at the gun show how do I determine that the dealer is a bona fide FFL?
How to tell if dealer at PA gun show is bona fide FFL?
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Sunray
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Ask to see his licence.
"...sell it at the gun show..." Suspect that'd create some kind of legal issue.
"...sell it at the gun show..." Suspect that'd create some kind of legal issue.
hirundo82
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Only a FFL can access the NICS system. If you are planning to transfer a gun to someone through a FFL, him making the call to NICS would be enough to ensure he is the real thing. I don't really think it is a risk though; I've never heard of someone at a gun show pretending to be a FFL.
Not if he sells it to a FFL or transfers it to a PA resident through a PA FFL.
Sunray said:
Not if he sells it to a FFL or transfers it to a PA resident through a PA FFL.
bushmaster1313
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Exactly
But how do I tell he is accessing the NICS system?
stickhauler
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It's been my experience that FFL's display a copy of their license at gun shows. That might just be in Ohio, but that's what I see at local shows.
Sam1911
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He's buying a gun (from you) as an FFL. Why would he be accessing NICS anyway? An FFL doesn't run a check on himself when buying a gun as a licensee.
Ask to see his license. Pretty simple, really. If he won't show you a copy, just walk away. You don't HAVE to sell a gun to him.
NavyLCDR
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And, when you see his license, you can run the license number through ATF's E-Zcheck system and it will tell you who has that license at what address.
swinokur
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If you have access to the Internet, BATFE has a list of all FFL's by state on their web site
Why is this an issue? I don't know PA/NJ laws, but transferring to an FFL should only matter if shipping the gun interstate.
I travel for a living and have sold handguns out of state without any issues.
Every gun sold at a gun show in Colorado has to have a background check. Private sellers/buyers just stand in line and pay a $10 fee to run the checks. Anywhere else in Colorado, you can sell without a background, as long as, you do not reason to believe the buyer is a prohibited person.
I travel for a living and have sold handguns out of state without any issues.
Every gun sold at a gun show in Colorado has to have a background check. Private sellers/buyers just stand in line and pay a $10 fee to run the checks. Anywhere else in Colorado, you can sell without a background, as long as, you do not reason to believe the buyer is a prohibited person.
Sam1911
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Not so.
He's concerned because if he sells a firearm to someone from another state who DOESN'T have an FFL (in other words, anyone who isn't a licensed dealer) both that person AND HE commit federal felonies.
He's asking how to be sure a person who claims to be a gun dealer -- thus legal to sell his firearm(s) to outside of his home state -- really is one.
Certainly, but you sold them to DEALERS, correct? Selling them to a private individual outside of your home state would have been a federal felony.
NavyLCDR
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stove said:
GCA. 18 USC 922 (a)(3) and (a)(5):
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/718/usc_sec_18_00000922----000-.html
dogtown tom
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ATF requires a licensee to display both his FFL and the Youth Handgun poster at his licensed premises and at any gun show where he sells.
Sam1911
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I did not know that! Very cool. Thanks!
bushmaster1313
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I can run EZCHECK from my Blackberry
It is scary to think so many people do not know the federal(much less state) gun laws. There must be a majority of gun owners who would(ignorently)sell or buy illegally and risk going to jail.
This is an informed site and most people here are a better informed group and we get "legal" questions all the time.
This is an informed site and most people here are a better informed group and we get "legal" questions all the time.
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