shotgunner
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What type of paperwork is necessary to own a sawed-off shotgun?
Is a class 3 permit necessary??
Is a class 3 permit necessary??
How would one legally own a sawed-off?
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JeepDriver
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ATF Form 1, $200 and wait 3-6 months.
Then engrave your receiver with your name, city and state.
After all that is done you should be good to cut the barrel down
ATF Forms can be down loaded here:
http://www.titleii.com/archives/000008.html
Then engrave your receiver with your name, city and state.
After all that is done you should be good to cut the barrel down
ATF Forms can be down loaded here:
http://www.titleii.com/archives/000008.html
shotgunner
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Yeah cause I think a sawed off would make a great defense shotgun =]
You think both barrels could be discharged at once without damaging it?
You think both barrels could be discharged at once without damaging it?
Ohen Cepel
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I think that if it was made originally as a sawed off it should only be a $5 tax stamp.
I have never understood it, but some are $200 and some are $5.
You can touch off both barrels at the same time. Won't hurt the gun, might not be fun for you though.
I have never understood it, but some are $200 and some are $5.
You can touch off both barrels at the same time. Won't hurt the gun, might not be fun for you though.
JeepDriver
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Ohen Cepel said:
If the gun left the factory with a rifle stock attached it can not be an AOW ($5 transfer) It must be registered as a SBS ($200 transfer/Tax)
It's like AR's. If the receiver is a registered pistol, you can buy the 7.5" barrels w/o breaking federal law, but if the receiver left the factory as a rifle, 16" is the minium lenght for barrels
angrywalkindude
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I sawed off a Savage 20 Gauge once.
I just stopped at 18 1/4".
I just stopped at 18 1/4".
MudPuppy
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I thought an AOW still requires the $200 initial tax, then transfers are $5.
Could you imagine paying a "tax" to register a Bible or a word processor.
...our government is broken...
Could you imagine paying a "tax" to register a Bible or a word processor.
...our government is broken...
angrywalkindude
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PM sent.
nomadboi
Looks like the State of Washington banned new machine guns, short-barreled rifles and short-barreled shotguns after July 1, 1994:
http://www.leg.wa.gov/RCW/index.cfm?section=9.41.190&fuseaction=section
Should be okay to own an AOW though.
Looks like the State of Washington banned new machine guns, short-barreled rifles and short-barreled shotguns after July 1, 1994:
http://www.leg.wa.gov/RCW/index.cfm?section=9.41.190&fuseaction=section
Should be okay to own an AOW though.
Standing Wolf
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Shhhhh! Don't give the leftist extremists ideas, eh?
bogie
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It's a $200 manufacturing tax. DO NOT manufacture the thing until you have your stamp.
$200 for shotgun. $200 for tax. Might be cheaper to just buy one as an AOW.
$200 for shotgun. $200 for tax. Might be cheaper to just buy one as an AOW.
Zach S
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Doesn't the manufacturer have to pay the $200 tax as well?
Might not be that much cheaper. I know the super shorty cost lot of money for a sawed off Maverick 88 or Mossberg 500.
Might not be that much cheaper. I know the super shorty cost lot of money for a sawed off Maverick 88 or Mossberg 500.
entropy
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deadin
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I have never quite understood why you can get a manufacurer license and make a short-barreled shotgun, but (It's been my understanding) if you come up with Grand-dad's Ithaca Auto Burglar or Marble Game-Getter that wasn't registered during the amnesty period, (i.e. no papers) there's no way you can make it legal. Am I wrong in this assumption? (I'm in WA State so maybe this is some state restriction)
Dean
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It's a "Short Barreled Shotgun" or "SBS", not a "sawed off" shotgun. You'll scare the sheeple. 
Kinda like calling semi-auto rifles, with normal capacity magazines, "Assault Weapons" or "Bullet Hoses".
Kinda like calling semi-auto rifles, with normal capacity magazines, "Assault Weapons" or "Bullet Hoses".
El Tejon
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Any Other Weapon.
Part of Title II that does not include Short Barrelled Shotguns and Rifles, Fully Automatic Weapons and Destructive Devices. E.g. a shotgun with a barrel of less than 18 inches but less than 26 inches in length overall (pen guns, cane guns, inter alia).
Part of Title II that does not include Short Barrelled Shotguns and Rifles, Fully Automatic Weapons and Destructive Devices. E.g. a shotgun with a barrel of less than 18 inches but less than 26 inches in length overall (pen guns, cane guns, inter alia).
bamawrx
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I "found' a marble arms game getter in my uncles stuff after he died. It turns out it was registered and so another family member was able to get it. Funny how he never mentioned the gun, anyhow I often wonder what I would have done with the thing if it turned out to be unregistered.
Wouldn't it be legal to take a legal length barrel MAGG and do a form 1 w/tax and then cut that barrel after the approval?
Wouldn't it be legal to take a legal length barrel MAGG and do a form 1 w/tax and then cut that barrel after the approval?
mtnbkr
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No, lets. Maybe when people have to deal with those restrictions on 1st Amendment issues they'll get the point.Standing Wolf said:
Chris
They kinda already do... remember the 'free speech zones' in NYC during the Republican Convention last presidential convention?
Unfortunately not enough people care when it isn't happening to them personally, and few seem to see the connections between the rights to free speech, freedom of religion, rkba, etc.
Unfortunately not enough people care when it isn't happening to them personally, and few seem to see the connections between the rights to free speech, freedom of religion, rkba, etc.
AOW (Any Other Weapon)
"The term "any other weapon" means any weapon or device capable of being concealed on the person from which a shot can be discharged through the energy of an explosive, a pistol or revolver having a barrel with a smooth bore designed or redesigned to fire a fixed shotgun shell, weapons with combination shotgun and rifle barrels 12 inches or more, less than 18 inches in length, from which only a single discharge can be made from either barrel without manual reloading, and shall include any such weapon which may be readily restored to fire. Such term shall not include a pistol or a revolver having a rifled bore, or rifled bores, or weapons designed, made, or intended to be fired from the shoulder and not capable of firing fixed ammunition."
[26 USC Sec. 5845(e)]
Here is an interesting example of an AOW:
http://www.serbu.com/shorty.htm
"The term "any other weapon" means any weapon or device capable of being concealed on the person from which a shot can be discharged through the energy of an explosive, a pistol or revolver having a barrel with a smooth bore designed or redesigned to fire a fixed shotgun shell, weapons with combination shotgun and rifle barrels 12 inches or more, less than 18 inches in length, from which only a single discharge can be made from either barrel without manual reloading, and shall include any such weapon which may be readily restored to fire. Such term shall not include a pistol or a revolver having a rifled bore, or rifled bores, or weapons designed, made, or intended to be fired from the shoulder and not capable of firing fixed ammunition."
[26 USC Sec. 5845(e)]
Here is an interesting example of an AOW:
http://www.serbu.com/shorty.htm
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