How would the US enforce Feinstein's plan?

[JERRY]

they just sit back and wait for you to be involved in a justified shooting....you get a pass on the shooting but 10 years on the gun charge.

or youre in a car wreck coming back from the range...you get interviewed at the hosp. by the cops after they find the illegal guns/mags in your car during an admin. inventory before the tow truck takes it away.....

 

[22-rimfire]

No private gun range (business) will allow illegal guns or magazines to be used in my opinion. No compelling reason to use the AR for home defense and there is likely no reason for the police to ever search your house.

As far as 10 years for a stupid gun charge... that would make a lot of people rather pissed off. There could be unintended consequences to such legal actions.

 

[Deanimator]

I'd add that I'm truly surprised that the 'sniper rifle' issue hasn't received any attention yet............if or not you like or believe it, you'd best be aware that that IS something down the road on the agenda---------those high powered scopes WILL be on the radar, along with those bolt action man killers, all that'll take is another Texas Tower incident.

All of that was bandied about during the first AWB.

Rest assured that an AWB is just the START.

 

[-v-]

I too get rather tired of the defeatist attitude. The fight hasn't started and some people already want to sit down at the armistice table and sign away our rights. I lament how easily they have been brain-washed by the main-stream media.

I would guesstimate that the AWB will be introduced and voted on. Hopefully our side outnumbers theirs - which in the house it should. An other is hopefully to have some maverick legislators screw any AWB bill into oblivion, such as make any proposed legislation so over the top with enough poison pills in it that no self respecting congress critter would dare touch it.

In the new AWB throw in things like "confiscate ALL firearms", "20 year mandatory sentence for possession of ammunition" "no hunting/sporting exemptions" "possession of marijuana punishable by death on sight" "minority votes only count for 3/5th of a vote" etc.

I would almost guarantee you keep amending and screwing any AWB bills up like that enough that nothing will happen of it. Either that or de-claw the bill with statements like "Illegal to sell but not to assemble or posses" I for one am "OK" with the ban of sale of 10+ round mags, as long as its ok for me to buy the parts and put them together myself. Heck, might even make them cheaper to buy the parts separate.

 

[Slipknot_Slim]

Personally, I don't see it happening. The people in Washington can't get together on avoiding the fiscal cliff although they all agree that it needs to be avoided.

But miraculously, these same folks will all join hands to pass an AWB.

 

[boatmanschneider]

Doctors are already required to ask children if there are any guns in the house and how many. The government has been collecting data for awhile.

 

[22-rimfire]

Doctors are already required to ask children if there are any guns in the house and how many.

Required by whom?

 

[Batty67]

Stupidly getting back into this discussion: I point out that I think a 10-rd limit on magazines is completely retarded and I'm against it. I think restricting private sales of firearms makes *some* sense, and I've sold two pistols in privates sales myself so I'm not coming at this from a theoretical position. I also think those two changes are likely to happen but I do not know the future and hope that I am wrong. Oh, and I renewed my NRA membership today but will not be sleeping in a Courtyard Marriot.

Lastly, as far as I know, I've not been brainwashed by the media, but maybe I have and I don't even realize it...

 

[Derek Zeanah]

Doctors are already required to ask children if there are any guns in the house and how many. The government has been collecting data for awhile.

My wife's a pediatrician and she asks. She covers gun safety along with 4-wheeler safety.

Nobody collects it though. It's like talking about a swimming pool (which kills more kids than guns, by the way) -- perfectly safe if you think it through, dangerous as hell if you ignore it.

But there's no conspiracy here.

 

[EBK]

If its time to hide them its time to use them.

 

[TennJed]

My wife's a pediatrician and she asks. She covers gun safety along with 4-wheeler safety.

Nobody collects it though. It's like talking about a swimming pool (which kills more kids than guns, by the way) -- perfectly safe if you think it through, dangerous as hell if you ignore it.

But there's no conspiracy here.

I agree and see where you are coming from, but he asked REQUIRED by who? Is it required? As far as I know it has never been asked by our doctors and we have small children with recent checkups (4 & 2 y.o.)

 

[Derek Zeanah]

I agree and see where you are coming from, but he asked REQUIRED by who? Is it required? As far as I know it has never been asked by our doctors and we have small children with recent checkups (4 & 2 y.o.)

Not as far as I'm aware.

 

[texasgun]

if it SHOULD pass and you do not register your AR and use it in a SD scenario or any other case where the cops find it with you.... trust me.... you don't want to be that guy. I assume it will be a felony charge (or at least a severe misdemeanor) and it will wreck ANY background check for good. Trying to find a new job? I doubt your employer is going to like that you violated federal gun laws. Also: forget your CHL/CCW license and be ready to be flagged for any future firearm purchase. IMHO ... absolutely not worth the risk. Plus: what would you do with an unregistered AR? bury it in the backyard? you cannot use it...

 

[willroute]

I was asked on my previous gun purchase whether I was Hispanic? I am not, but funny how more questions are appearing on the forms.

 

[willroute]

How would the US enforce Feinstein's plan?

Through fantasy and wishfull thinking. Until it gets overturned by the Supreme Court. In the end there will be no ban on semi-autos. Read Heller v DC.

And in the meantime, gun prices will skyrocket and we will feel the effects.

 

[2ifbyC]

This discussion is an anachronism. It’s analogous to the Wright brothers discussing the color of the paint of their aircraft before it has ever flown. Your energy should be spent preventing the bill from passing. You will have plenty of time to react IF it passes and in what form.

 

[willroute]

Would be completely naive and unrealistic



They can't. They lack the manpower to do so, especially once you take the total number of "agents" (LEO, Military, ATF, etc) and remove those who refuse on moral grounds and those who refuse because they want to live.



Depends on how you look at at. The constitution says yes, but numerous laws will make you a criminal for doing so. In the end, though, the only part of this question that you really need to ask is how you'll be remembered posthumously.



We already are.

Not to mention number 2 will also violate our Fourth Amendment, but hey, who cares when you can rewrite the constitution when you want.

 

[TwoEyedJack]

A few decades ago the feds shoved wolves down our throats (figuratively). A few years ago, the feds banned Idaho from having a wolf hunting season. After months of unproductive negotiations, Governor Otter got on the radio and announced that he was enjoining any employee of the state of Idaho from enforcing any federal law regarding the Canadian grey wolf. The feds backed down, and we again can hunt wolves.

If this nightmare passes, I believe our governor would again enjoin Idaho state employees from enforcing it. You who live in states with bootlicker governors should consider relocation.