HP ammo for .223 and 9mm

[starla]

I am looking for .223 and 9mm hollow point bullets that produce the most expansion. The .223s are for hogs and other large game, and the 9mm for home protection. Can anyone recommend some brands/models?

 

[Kurt_D]

Many seem to have good luck with 60-something gr winchester power points for .223.

For 9mm: Winchester Ranger T, Speer Gold Dots, Remington Golden Sabres, Federal HST, Horandy to name a few; pick which ever is available to you.

 

[dom1104]

.223 is not great for large game, if I was forced to use it, I would use a TBBC bullet, in the heaviest bullet weight that shot well.

 

[jak67429]

are you reloading or buying factory

 

[rcmodel]

Maximum expansion .223 bullets would be with light varmint bullets.

But that's the very last thing in the world you want for hogs.

What you want is heavier & controlled expansion deer bullets to make it through the dried mud & gristle armor plate on a hog.

Look at Remington Core-Lokt, Win Power-Point, Nosler Partition, Hornady 62 grain TAP, etc.

http://www.hornadyle.com/products/more_detail.php?id=130&sID=86&pID=1


All of the major brands of 9mm JHP is designed & tested to meet the FBI criteria for penetration & expansion.

You can't go too far wrong with any brand you can find right now.

rc

 

[shadowalker]

For 223 look for the heaviest bonded projectile or a 75 grain BTHP (not a varmint bullet). The barrier blind ammunition marketed to law enforcement would be one of the better choices.

Expansion with 223 isn't nearly as important as it is in 9mm, most 223 bullets have a tendency to fragment too early or over expand and not penetrate in medium / larger animals.

223 is not a good choice for hunting anything substantial. In an AR platform you would be far better off with a 6.8 SPC which can be used very effectively on deer.

 

[dom1104]

223 is not a good choice for hunting anything substantial. In an AR platform you would be far better off with a 6.8 SPC which can be used very effectively on deer.

I agree with this. but even better than that, get a real deer rifle in a real deer rifle caliber.

 

[starla]

Thanks. Actually I know very little about guns and ammo. Is the .223 good for turtles?

 

[rcmodel]

Not if you want any turtle left for soup or something.

The last snapping turtle I shot with a .223 left his bottom shell stuck to the ground, and his top shell about 20 feet away.

A pink mist cloud in the air was all that remained of the meat.

rc

 

[starla]

And buying factory. Thanks for all the help.

 

[SheepNutz]

For 9mm, I go with the Speer Gold Dot 124 grain +P round. It has quite a bit of expansion, as shown by this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcwaMwB13Gg

 

[-eaux-]

if you want to use a .22 on hogs, i'd reccomend .22WMR over .223Win, and i'd insist that you insist upon <50yd headshots.
and that you do some googling on where to place the headshot.
and that you do a lot of target practice from standing position.
personally, from experience, i'd never carry anything underpowered for whitetail deer on a hog hunt. i carry .44mag in a sidearm, .30 caliber rifle main gun for hogs.
(granted, i've also caught with dogs and dispatched with a good ol' knife between the ribs) but that tends to get you bruised up a bit.
if i was for hogs with a .22 centerfire, it'd be a .22-250 with a sniped headshot.