Hunter killed by Grizzly

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I know the country he was hunting in. Steep as you might expect for bighorns and a few Grimsleys. He must have tripped over the sow/cub. Didn't get a shot off. "Latte types" are reveling hunter's death. He was a good man. He was just in wrong place, wrong time.
http://www.calgarysun.com/2014/09/0...y-spent-decade-helping-youth-in-haiti-liberia

He was sheep hunting.
Unfortunately, it may mean the death of the sow and cub. Liability issue. Damn!
My understanding is that his body was found 140 yards from his rifle. There was a deer kill nearby. The bear killed the deer. I think he tripped over her. Very sad, all 'round.
 
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Latte types suggest we as humans are invasive species and have no right to be off the paved apron of a 7-11 convenience store.
 
I drink lattes with some regularity; I don't have issues with hunting in general.
You just joined today and may find that there are many other folks on board this site who may drink lattes and still enjoy hunting, shooting, collecting, etc.
 
Touche' I just joined today, too. My name is Gary. There is a class or sub-species up here that think meat comes on Styrofoam. They are OK with paying someone else to kill the animals to provide them with chicken wings, etc. A hunter..oh, my God..they are evil!
 
They closed season there. The bio's found , thru DNA that hair samples on wire fences suggested that the bios were tracking/accounting for the same bears in multiple locations. Their range was much larger than expected. The qualifier is..it only applies to a few bears but the ban covered all of Alberta. Now ranchers are complaining of cattle being killed..etc.
 
I don't guess there's anything wrong with latte, for all that I've never had any. Me, I'm more of a truck-stop sort of coffee drinker, or camp coffee. :D But given the general style of some seeing and more reading of "Starbuckers", I imagine there are fewer hunters hanging there than others. :)

But it's always a shame when some poor guy gets to the wrong place at the wrong time.

I've read that some bears have learned to associate gunfire with a dead deer or elk, and come to check out the chances for a free meal.
 
Yes, I enjoy lattes. I don't think the OP picked the best of terms but alas, on to the topic.

This is why it's important to always carry your rifle when in bear country. If for some reason this isn't possible, a large caliber handgun (the largest you can shoot accuratly under stress) and/or bear mace (possibly even more effective) must be carried.
 
Hello Mr Eatman. I dunno about the gunfire/bear association BUT...I have a cabin in the Kootenay mountains, south of Revelstoke. There is a small isolated herd of CARIBOU called the Salmo/Creston herd to be found there. they have acclimatized themselves to chain saws. Many times the skidders operating in the bush have had to stop operations as the caribou have come to the cut down trees to feast on the "Old man's beard" moss on the cut down trees.
Wildlife is much more adaptable than some would give credit, to.
 
This is why it's important to always carry your rifle when in bear country. If for some reason this isn't possible, a large caliber handgun (the largest you can shoot accuratly under stress) and/or bear mace (possibly even more effective) must be carried.
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Isn't it kinda tough to get a handgun in Canada? I KNOW, as an American, I cannot take one into Canada.
 
Hello Mr/Ms Cooldill, Having a handgun would NOT have made any difference. I know there is a certain image of having a duel with a ravening bear but he HAD a rifle but no opportunity to use it. He didn't stop and call his Philadelphia lawyer for his advice while bear charged down on him. Having a handgun in this situation is folly. It is as much nonsense as having bearspray. Given a choice, I would rather have a rifle over a can of bearspray, any day.
 
Mr/Ms MCgunner, It is IMPOSSIBLE to bring handguns into Canada. If the border police find it in your possession, they will definitely stop and arrest you! Don't do it. "I am going hunting in the Yukon!" does NOT cut it. DO NOT bring a handgun to Canada. Honest Injun!
 
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The idea you could pull a pistol and shoot a charging bear, it blowing it's last breath in your face, is romantic folly. If you have time to pull a pistol, you have time to back away and unshoulder yr rifle. After that, you are in the hands of the Fates.
 
I sounds very tragic, he was a very good man.
I was also interested in the link, of the man that killed an attacking grizzly with a knife.
 
Why so pedantic/obtuse on the "latte crowd" reference.
We all know exactly what he means. jeez...

Sorry to hear about this. Seems like he was a really good dude.
Sounds like she was on him really quick. I hope it was over just as fast.
 
Mr/Ms MCgunner, It is IMPOSSIBLE to bring handguns into Canada. If the border police find it in your possession, they will definitely F u up! Don't do it. "I am going hunting in the Yukon!" does NOT cut it. DO NOT bring a handgun to Canada. Honest Injun!
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Well, not exactly... It CAN be done, but you MUST plan ahead, have the proper forms filled out and have obtained approval PRIOR to showing up at the border. This can be done by contacting the Canadian Firearms Program folks here.

Handguns that are defined as "prohibited" won't be allowed, but others that are defined as "restricted" might be - depending on your circumstances. Working with an RCMP firearms officer at the above mentioned link is the key.

Just don't show up at the border and expect to be allowed in if you haven't done the advance work. The customs folks do not tolerate ignorance.
 
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Yeah, i figure if you don't drink your coffee black, you need to turn in your man card. But, hey, that's just me. :D
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Indeed, but then it must be coffee, not some watered down excuse for coffee. You should be able to use said coffee alternately to clean drains, strip paint and as an engine wash :).

Café Latte does not qualify as coffee.

Pity about the unfortunate hunter, these things will happen when dangerous game is in the vicinity.
 
. If you have time to pull a pistol, you have time to back away and unshoulder yr rifle. After that, you are in the hands of the Fates.
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Having a handgun in this situation is folly. It is as much nonsense as having bearspray. Given a choice, I would rather have a rifle over a can of bearspray, any day.
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You really need to do some research on this. Of course a rifle is preferable. But not always practical. And no, you don't have time to back away and un shoulder your rifle. It is either in your hands, or forget about it.

Bear spray has in fact proven to be the most effective deterrent over either a rifle or handgun.

A handgun may be the least effective. But it is the option that can be used one handed and at ranges where the rifle is useless and bear spray too late. I sure wouldn't call carrying one folly. Handguns have successfully been used many times in the past to defend folks from bear attacks where the action was far too close for a rifle.

Of course sometimes there is nothing that can be done. When it is your time, it is your time. No witnesses in this case, so no one will ever know the exact details or if anything different could have been done.
 
I wonder how many people making comments about this grizzly attack have ever been in the woods where there are a lot of those bears.
In some areas around here in NW Wyoming grizzlies are so thick a rifle shot during big game season will bring a bear in minutes.
Only a fool will be out there alone.
And you damn well better be practiced and prepared for what you're going to do if one comes in on you wanting that elk you just knocked down.
 
I, drink black truckstop coffee buy the gallon, I, get it free and take advantage of this.

I, also enjoy the occasional specialty coffee, though none can match the Turkish coffee my grandmother made in my youth.

If you need a card to let people know you're a man, well guess what..........

With all that dribble out of the way I'm sorry to here about the death of this gentleman,

When you are doing something that doesn't involve a keyboard there is the possibility of death.

Yes I know you could get a blister and it becomes infected and you die, and level 33 was so intense that you hart almost exploded.

And when you hunt where you can be on the menu, you just might be lunch, or fall to your death, or get lost and not be found. That is part of the ride.

God bless him, and I, hope the best for his family.
 
Hello Mr/Ms Cooldill, Having a handgun would NOT have made any difference. I know there is a certain image of having a duel with a ravening bear but he HAD a rifle but no opportunity to use it. He didn't stop and call his Philadelphia lawyer for his advice while bear charged down on him. Having a handgun in this situation is folly. It is as much nonsense as having bearspray. Given a choice, I would rather have a rifle over a can of bearspray, any day.
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The idea you could pull a pistol and shoot a charging bear, it blowing it's last breath in your face, is romantic folly. If you have time to pull a pistol, you have time to back away and unshoulder yr rifle. After that, you are in the hands of the Fates.
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Maybe not to your exact specs, but stopping grizzlies with a pistol has been done multiple times and is not romantic folly. Pistols can and have made a definite difference. Here are a few examples.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=526003&highlight=charged+bear+pistol
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=320635&highlight=charged+bear+pistol (post 13)
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=103235&highlight=charged+bear+pistol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUG8UPsgE3U
 
EmGeeGeorge said:
I drink lattes with some regularity; I don't have issues with hunting in general.
You just joined today and may find that there are many other folks on board this site who may drink lattes and still enjoy hunting, shooting, collecting, etc.
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^^^ I agree.

I too enjoy a latte every now and then, but hunt more often than I drink them. Why folks feel the need to call names while stereotyping folks in forum threads never ceases to amaze me. I also doubt that anyone, latte drinker or not is ''reveling'' about his death. Where he was and what he was doing is not for everyone. Going into Griz country without knowing the risk or ignoring it completely is truly reason for concern and may be what some folks are trying to say.

This was a tragic incident. Stuff happens. If this guy was the experienced hunter/outdoorsman he is claimed to be, he knew the risk he was taking in Griz country. The idea he came upon a actively feeding sow and cub without hearing or seeing anything soon enough to at least get one shot off seems odd to me. Coming upon the kill and being attacked by a bear resting a few yards away protecting that kill seems more likely. Millions of hunters/outdoors people spend millions of hours in the woods where Grizzlies live every year. Very few ever get attacked or killed by them. Folks are more likely to die from getting stung by bees than by being attacked by a Griz. Maybe those latte drinkers need to refrain from using honey in their coffee.:rolleyes:
 
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