hunting with an m44 mosin-nagant

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I was thinking about hunting with my m44 carbine. I was thinking though, that it is alot more acurate with the bayonet extended and how a DNR guy would look at me if he saw me in the woods with my bayonet extended. Does anyone else hunt with an M44???
 
From my understanding, the M44's sights are just calibrated to shoot point-of-aim with the bayonet extended. If one were motivated enough, adjusting the sights with the bayonet folded could change that.
 
Leave the bayonet stowed. It depends on the rifle if the bayonet causes a difference in the bullet's impact point. In all that I have shot, all you have to is adjusted the windage a bit to correct any differences caused by the bayonet. Besides, the bayonet makes a dandy rifle holder while you gut your deer and have a beer in celebration......chris3
 
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As discussed I think its a point of aim issue rather than accuracy. Just sight the rifle in with the bayonet stowed and you're good to go. But who cares either way, hunting with a Mosin (responsibly of course) is automatic street cred in my book.
 
Winchester sells very good SP hunting ammo that's made by S&B, 180 grains. There are also higher end Norma loadings available. Handloading is also an option.

The bayonet thing gets overplayed. I've never noticed a big difference, and you can pretty much assume you'll have to sight it in with a tap and hammer anyway. Both because the Soviets really didn't sight these in well and because you won't be using the same loads they did. Just do so with the bayo off or folded, using your chosen hunting rounds.
 
Several of the usual imported brands (S&B, Wolf, Bear, etc.) have soft point and hollow point rounds available.

Legal or not, I couldn't see myself hunting with the bayonet extended. It makes a 28" barrel shotgun seem short and handy in comparison. Though if you needed to pole vault across a stream you'd be all set.
 
Privi 150 gr sp. Cabela's has it. I have two Mosins that shoot less than 1 inch at 100 yards with that ammo where they shoot 2-3 inch groups with surplus. I bought the ammo first time to get reloadable brass because I was going hunting. After shooting it, why bother......good ammo and excellent reloadable brass....chris3
 
Geez ... I can see it now, a youtube video showing a knockdown, drag-em-out fight between that "Tirty Point Buck" and a guy with a M-N 44 carbine with a bayonet.

Thrust and parry ... put you back into it,Boyo! (It might be a better fight with a Martini-Henry equipped with her 21" "Lunger" ... ZULU!!!)
 
Ironically, bayonetts were developed for hunting, not warfare. Bear hunters in the Pyranees Mountains that separate Spain and France had a problem -- muzzle loaders are slow to reload, and wounded bears are fast to charge. So they carried big knives as last ditch defense weapons. But hunters found that if they were close enough to the bear to use a knife, the bear was close enough to them to use teeth and claws.

Then some bright boy got the idea to make his knife with a reverse taper handle, which could be jammed down the muzzle of his gun, thereby producing a hunting spear.

Knives like that were produced at an industrial town, Bayonne, hence the name.

Bayonnets were adopted by armies, because they solved the problem of what a musketeer does in close combat when he's fired his one shot. Later on, the socket bayonette, which allows shooting and reloading with the bayonette fixed, replaced the plug bayonette.
 
Lived in Iowa most of my life but am now in Oregon.
So what you hunting with a center fire?
A bayonet extended can make going through the wood an issue.
But anyways, a bayonet extended is not magical, just a counter weight.
Get a spare bayonet and cut it down then add some weight to the stub.
Look at an archers bow. Target shooters use a long thin stabilizer and hunters use a
short thick one.
The only thing a bayonet extended does is change the center of balance and modify
the leverage it takes to move a weapon.
 
Start with Silver Bear ammo. A couple of my Mosins are ammo picky, but they all shoot Silver Bear quite well. They all HATE Sellier & Bellot. YMMV....

If you are stand hunting it is no big deal. Just fix the bayonet when you get set. M-44 had those nifty swing away pokers, so they can be fixed or stowed in seconds with no tools. M91-30 rifles need to be beaten on and off with a brass hammer.
 
It doesn't have any bearing on accuracy. It supposedly can effect point of impact, but I have doubts about that. In any case he needs to sight it in fresh for whatever hunting ammo he chooses. Just sight in without the bayonet on there and forget about it.
 
Having 4 M44s, I have not seen the accuracy issue with any of them after removing the bayonet. Also, I and my sons have used them for hunting with great success. For hunting ammo, try a few different types. The 203gr brown bear and silver bear work well in 3 of the 4. Privi in the 150gr does well in them too. About 5 or 6 years ago, is started reloading the huntling rounds to save on the cost. Here is a link to a few types of ammo for the 7.62x54r.
 
Take it off and store it. Takes a 1/2 pound off the front and the odd way it holds, in my hands.

I have a well used Tula 'beater" that I loan out to those who need. Bayonett sits inna box and all who use the rifle like it. Zip blueing and a nice oiled stock, its ridden many miles and back, and when I retire it to the wall, Ill put the bayonett back on and admire it.
 
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