Hypothetical work situation

[ohioshooter]

I'm a federal worker and the base is in a location called "Machine gun alley" and we can't carry on base or even get them to invest in a locker system to where we could turn them in and get them on the way out. Said it's too much of a liability. Now they don't do 100% car checks either so to me at least us law abiding citizens would turn ours in and be protected on our way home than those who may want to come in and do harm. Either way they still don't realize that guns can get on base regardless.

 

[F-111 John]

Question one: How do they find out what you report to the police?

Because if the break-in happened on campus, you report it to the campus police?

 

[rtroha]

Gun locked in car/truck.

I say screw the gun and just opt not to include the gun in stolen property. I bought it new a few years ago from my LGS. It was a legal transaction with the 4473 form filled out. No big deal. I am out my $900 and that's it.

Wait, six months later my gun turns up next to a corpse downtown Cleveland, Ohio. As the gun trace is run eventually I will hear a knock on the door. Oh, I am sorry, when my car / truck was broken into I forgot to mention that gun was stolen. Goodbye clearance, goodbye job

Ron

...and to make your scenario even worse, you could be charged with a 4th degree misdemeanor for failing to report a stolen gun.

http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2923.20

 

[NoVA Shooter]

I think it comes down to a basic risk vs reward analysis.

Risks:
You get ‘caught’ and are fired (and what comes with it; the challenge of having to get a new job, etc).
You need a gun but don’t have one.
Reward:
You have a gun at a time of need.

Now, what is the probability of being fired and what is the probability that you will need your gun? I know this is qualitative, but it will give you a good sense of the ‘right’ thing to do for you. I have the same situation at my work. The way I see it, the chance of me needing my gun is far less than the chance I will get fired. That, coupled with the fact that my job is very important my family and me makes my decision easy; the rewards do not out-way the risks. If situations change, so might my carry choice (for example, if getting a comparable job was not an issue or the area where I work becomes more dangerous, I may accept more of the risks).

 

[Skribs]

Now, what is the probability of being fired and what is the probability that you will need your gun? I know this is qualitative, but it will give you a good sense of the ‘right’ thing to do for you. I have the same situation at my work. The way I see it, the chance of me needing my gun is far less than the chance I will get fired. That, coupled with the fact that my job is very important my family and me makes my decision easy; the rewards do not out-way the risks. If situations change, so might my carry choice (for example, if getting a comparable job was not an issue or the area where I work becomes more dangerous, I may accept more of the risks).

You are only looking at part of risk analysis. You're looking at the frequency of the event, and not factoring in the impact of the event. Yes, it might be more likely he gets fired than he needs his firearm, but which is going to be more costly? When you get fired, or the time you need your firearm and don't have it?

It's a gray area, for sure. Because you have to weigh the frequency and the impact, and the impact will be different for different people.

 

[Warp]

The phrase you are looking for ^ is

It's not the odds, but the stakes.

 

[Reloadron]

...and to make your scenario even worse, you could be charged with a 4th degree misdemeanor for failing to report a stolen gun.

http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2923.20

That would be correct, another picky detail.

Ron

 

[Ed Ames]

Some people could honestly claim they were not aware that the gun was stolen. After all, the fact that it isn't in the locked compartment welded into their vehicle doesn't mean it isn't in the back of their safe, or tucked away in the safe at their vacation home, or even in the pocket of a coat they haven't worn since winter ended.

I have opened the locked security container in my vehicle and not found a gun many times. It is actually the default condition. So far they have always been in one of my residential safes even when I thought I had left it in my car. I would never make a police report about a stolen gun just because I couldn't find it in my car, because chances are not finding it in my car would just mean I didn't remember to bring it or forgot that I actually put it in the safe because I knew I was going to be somewhere guns are verboten.

 

[Sheepdog1968]

Can you park off campus. If you aren't using their parking facility and are parking in something public I don't think they can say much. Could use a lock box bolted or locked into trunk. Keep the firearm in that and have it inside something that looks like a day planner or such so when you get to car open trunk and take your day planner into the car.

Where I work there is no public parking so I follow the rules. How about keeping pepper spray inside the car?

 

[230RN]

"Some people could honestly claim they were not aware that the gun was stolen."

True, true. I've misplaced guns for a while about half a dozen times. I might have loaned one to a son and kind of forgotten that I did so.

One. 22 rifle was missing all through one summer because I had leaned it against the wall behind the door of my shop in the barn. Summertime, door was left open while I was in the shop, so I didn't see it. First cold Fall day when I closed the door with me inside, there it was.

Can happen. Of course I'll get criticized for not being a "responsible gun owner," but at the time, guns weren't "GUH-UHNs" (EEK!) with the attendant media-induced paranoia about them, but just... guns.

Terry

 

[pintler]

FWIW, I'm in a similar situation. For a few dollars extra every month I can park in a commercial lot just off campus.

 

[Double Naught Spy]

Some people could honestly claim they were not aware that the gun was stolen.

Yeah, but that just would not be the case here.