I am a Wal-Mart store manager Questions?
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FireArmFan
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they do that at other stores too. I stopped at gander mountain today to buy some cleaning patches for a few of my guns. I was only there maybe 5 minutes and I saw the employees walk a gun out twice in those 5 minutes. It may not make a lot of sense but it's not just wal mart that does that.
Old Dog
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I'd just like to say that I appreciate Steve for actually starting this thread, and I understand his frustrations, given the frequent threads that are so strangely anti-WalMart in nature (especially since, as noted, WM usually has about the best ammo prices (at least for range/ball ammo) of any retail outlets around (and yes, some of us do have to buy ammo at the store occasionally; we can't always get it at the gunshows or buy on-line).
Also as noted by previous poster(s) -- this is common in many stores that sell firearms. I suspect it's more of an anti-theft, anti-shoplifting thing, than an anti-gun thing.
loop
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Just want to say thanks for throwing yourself to the wolves. I have never had a problem with WM or its policies regarding firearms.
Don't have one now.
BTW, started shopping at WalMart many years ago in Bentonville when I lived just up the road in Eureka Springs...
Don't have one now.
BTW, started shopping at WalMart many years ago in Bentonville when I lived just up the road in Eureka Springs...
chris in va
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I'll tell you one reason. Only once have I been to a WM where the counter guy knows anything about guns. At one store, I bought some WWB to shoot at the nearby range, and the Indian/Pakistani guy gave me all kinds of fits and even escorted me to the front register...and WATCHED me.
But anyway, I have a question. I saw a program a couple years ago detailing how vendors will cut quality on their products to meet WM price points. Is this true for guns as well? Both 22's I've bought at WM were horribly defective.
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My remington 597 came from a wally world. It's a little finicky because of a worn spring on the last shot hold open mechanism, but otherwise fine. 145$ + tax is hard to beat...nothing comes close from the local gun shop 
....i mounted a 3x-9x simmons scope on it and it's good for tennis ball hunting out to 100yds Bought some 22 round mags for it and am happy. Nice heavy barrel, stock from the factory.
....i mounted a 3x-9x simmons scope on it and it's good for tennis ball hunting out to 100yds Bought some 22 round mags for it and am happy. Nice heavy barrel, stock from the factory.Rabid Rabbit
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You can also look at the catalog online. They even have the prices.
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Old Dog quoted;
"Also as noted by previous poster(s) -- this is common in many stores that sell firearms. I suspect it's more of an anti-theft, anti-shoplifting thing, than an anti-gun thing."
Uneducated guess...
This could also be part of the insurance policy?
Companies who contribute to charities will also promptly personally escort their products out the door. Donated products are quickly escorted out because their insurance policy requirements. Products I've seen escorted are food and home products...Yet to see any guns or ammo donated but I'm sure it wouldn't change their insurance policy.
"Also as noted by previous poster(s) -- this is common in many stores that sell firearms. I suspect it's more of an anti-theft, anti-shoplifting thing, than an anti-gun thing."
Uneducated guess...
This could also be part of the insurance policy?
Companies who contribute to charities will also promptly personally escort their products out the door. Donated products are quickly escorted out because their insurance policy requirements. Products I've seen escorted are food and home products...Yet to see any guns or ammo donated
but I'm sure it wouldn't change their insurance policy. chupacabrah
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ScottsGT
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Steve,
How about make a post listing all those rumors! We might find it intertaning!!
How about make a post listing all those rumors! We might find it intertaning!!
I to work for Wal-Mart and the only weapons policy I know of is the one for associates . I have never seen a policy regarding customer carry of firearms .
Now here's a question Steve . Having signed the initial paperwork that states "no firearms on Wal-Mart property" ( employment contract) , does that prevent an associate /worker from carrying "off the clock" onto Wal-Mart property (just talking retail) ? What was signed did not specify that it was only during working hours , but rather while employed . (Btw , I work distribution ,not open to the public, where the whole place is weapons free).
Just curious of your take on this . I never could get a straight answer . But I did get "why would you need a gun? " and " your safer without a gun" .
Now here's a question Steve . Having signed the initial paperwork that states "no firearms on Wal-Mart property" ( employment contract) , does that prevent an associate /worker from carrying "off the clock" onto Wal-Mart property (just talking retail) ? What was signed did not specify that it was only during working hours , but rather while employed . (Btw , I work distribution ,not open to the public, where the whole place is weapons free).
Just curious of your take on this . I never could get a straight answer . But I did get "why would you need a gun? " and " your safer without a gun" .
chupacabrah
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i agree that is pretty strange. That's why I want to know for sure, it'd be good knowledge that's for sure
Did wal-marts in Va really loose their FFL or did they just give them up? I know none of the walmarts in South East Va carry guns any more and just yesterday I was told by an employee that Ammo will not be replaced after what on the shelf sells. Whats up with that?
Vern Humphrey
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I want to say thank you to Wal-Mart.
My town, Mountain View, Arkansas, was hit by a tornado on February 5th. The Super Tuesday Tornado tore a 123 mile swath through the state, staying on the ground for that entire distance, and leaving a half-mile to a mile wide path behind it.
We lost all contact with the eastern half of the county. The hospital was destroyed. The ambulance service was destroyed. We could use the telephone locally (to reach part of the county) but long-distance service was out. Highways from the east, south and north were blocked.
Before dawn, before communications were restored, a Wal-Mart truck arrived with a huge generator. They got power to the Murphy gas station -- the only souce of fuel in the county now, since no other station had power. They powered up the Super Wal-Mart. They began feeding people who had lost their homes, or who had no way to cook.
More and more Wal-Mart trucks rolled in, with emergency supplies -- batteries, canned goods, blankets, generators -- everything we needed.
And they did this before we could send a call for help. They did it without asking.
Thank you, Wal-Mart.
My town, Mountain View, Arkansas, was hit by a tornado on February 5th. The Super Tuesday Tornado tore a 123 mile swath through the state, staying on the ground for that entire distance, and leaving a half-mile to a mile wide path behind it.
We lost all contact with the eastern half of the county. The hospital was destroyed. The ambulance service was destroyed. We could use the telephone locally (to reach part of the county) but long-distance service was out. Highways from the east, south and north were blocked.
Before dawn, before communications were restored, a Wal-Mart truck arrived with a huge generator. They got power to the Murphy gas station -- the only souce of fuel in the county now, since no other station had power. They powered up the Super Wal-Mart. They began feeding people who had lost their homes, or who had no way to cook.
More and more Wal-Mart trucks rolled in, with emergency supplies -- batteries, canned goods, blankets, generators -- everything we needed.
And they did this before we could send a call for help. They did it without asking.
Thank you, Wal-Mart.
I was told by the Wal-mart fairy that sales were not going to well for firearms and that inexperienced staff could be a liability. The decision was made to still sell guns but on a regional level ( I assume 1 store per region) and to concentrate gun sales and training that that one store. I live near Indy and the regional Wal-mart gun store is in Columbus, IN. It used to be several stores near me had them (at least 4 within a 30 min drive), but I knew something was up as new stores were built they did not have a gun case. If you want to get a gun you will need to find out who is your regional seller is.
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Are the Wal-Mart "special" guns different and/or lower quality than what other stores get?
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This is also the guy that says on his website that private persons without FFL's can ship handguns via the US Postal Service in the one-rate boxes and just not tell them it's a handgun, so I wouldn't believe a word of what is posted on his website.
Also that date on the "Wal Mart" letter is 1999, things may have changed in the last 9 years.
The closest Walmart that sales firearms to me is in another town about 15 miles from my home (there are 3 closer). I drove over to this Walmart on a Saturday to special order a rifle. The associate told me that they only took firearm sales Mon-Thurs 9am - 3pm. So this meant I would have to leave work early and make to drive over to order, then do it again to pick up the rifle when it arrived.
With those hours to order a gun, it seems that they did not want to sell a gun to anyone that might have a job!
With those hours to order a gun, it seems that they did not want to sell a gun to anyone that might have a job!
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Haven’t seen the OP in a while, so I'll take a shot at a few.
harbingerm, the guns that Wal-Mart sells are the same as everyone else’s. If Ruger puts their name on a rifle then they don't want you thinking that ruger is a cruddy brand if it quits working
Top_Notch, often when an associate says something like that one of a couple things is going on. First it could be that they are ignorant of how things work within the store (this one more than the others usually) it could be that their assistant manager won't allow them to order more than six boxes, or it could be that they are simply opposed to placing a large ammunition order for fear that it won't sell quickly if it isn't picked up. We order much more than six boxes of ammunition in a week's time at our store. if someone refuses to help you then take it to the next level of management (store associate- department manager- assistant manager- co-manager- store manager) someone along the line should be able to get the ammo ordered for you.
Eric F, probably the same thing in answer to your question, ignorance runs rampant and a company the size of Wal-Mart is a festering cesspool of rumors. In our store alone you can be told 12 different stories about how something happened and never get the right one, if you really want to get an answer to your question then I suggest you give 1-800-WALMART a call and speak to someone there. They should be able to answer your questions better
ptmmatssc, if you look closely at the company documentation you will see that what you thought was an "employment contract" is actually nothing more than an agreement. The company or yourself may terminate your job at any moment with or without cause or notice. Anything you signed is essentially not worth the paper it's printed on. Carry your firearm, and if the store management tries to screw with you about it, start calling up the chain of command till you get someone who will listen to reason, or get yourself a lawyer, I hear those wrongful termination suits are goldmines waiting to be plucked.
chupacabrah, that letter is completely bogus. I know because I have watched off duty security guards OC in front of our Regional Vice President, and the only thing he said was "Good morning, is there anything we can help you find?" again, Wal-Mart does not have a policy concerning customer carry, this is left up to state law and the store manager's discretion.
homeka45, Hawaii isn't exactly what we call a "gun friendly" state
Old Dog, strangely it isn't any one of those reasons. As far as anyone to the regional level knows, it's simply a matter of profitability. The margin on Guns is super low; I think they were 10 to 15% when we had them, some lower. You figure in all of the paperwork compliance that has to be done, training for the people who sell them, training for the people who deal with the paperwork, constant paperwork checking to ensure the stores are compliant, random ATF checks, fines for filing incomplete information, etc... When you get to the bottom line, Wal-Mart is actually paying to sell guns, it just doesn't make good business sense when you can use that shelf space for something that will sell and you can make money on.
mekender, maps.google.com and get your phone handy, you'll be calling for a while.
harbingerm, the guns that Wal-Mart sells are the same as everyone else’s. If Ruger puts their name on a rifle then they don't want you thinking that ruger is a cruddy brand if it quits working
Top_Notch, often when an associate says something like that one of a couple things is going on. First it could be that they are ignorant of how things work within the store (this one more than the others usually) it could be that their assistant manager won't allow them to order more than six boxes, or it could be that they are simply opposed to placing a large ammunition order for fear that it won't sell quickly if it isn't picked up. We order much more than six boxes of ammunition in a week's time at our store. if someone refuses to help you then take it to the next level of management (store associate- department manager- assistant manager- co-manager- store manager) someone along the line should be able to get the ammo ordered for you.
Eric F, probably the same thing in answer to your question, ignorance runs rampant and a company the size of Wal-Mart is a festering cesspool of rumors. In our store alone you can be told 12 different stories about how something happened and never get the right one, if you really want to get an answer to your question then I suggest you give 1-800-WALMART a call and speak to someone there. They should be able to answer your questions better
ptmmatssc, if you look closely at the company documentation you will see that what you thought was an "employment contract" is actually nothing more than an agreement. The company or yourself may terminate your job at any moment with or without cause or notice. Anything you signed is essentially not worth the paper it's printed on. Carry your firearm, and if the store management tries to screw with you about it, start calling up the chain of command till you get someone who will listen to reason, or get yourself a lawyer, I hear those wrongful termination suits are goldmines waiting to be plucked.
chupacabrah, that letter is completely bogus. I know because I have watched off duty security guards OC in front of our Regional Vice President, and the only thing he said was "Good morning, is there anything we can help you find?" again, Wal-Mart does not have a policy concerning customer carry, this is left up to state law and the store manager's discretion.
homeka45, Hawaii isn't exactly what we call a "gun friendly" state
Old Dog, strangely it isn't any one of those reasons. As far as anyone to the regional level knows, it's simply a matter of profitability. The margin on Guns is super low; I think they were 10 to 15% when we had them, some lower. You figure in all of the paperwork compliance that has to be done, training for the people who sell them, training for the people who deal with the paperwork, constant paperwork checking to ensure the stores are compliant, random ATF checks, fines for filing incomplete information, etc... When you get to the bottom line, Wal-Mart is actually paying to sell guns, it just doesn't make good business sense when you can use that shelf space for something that will sell and you can make money on.
mekender, maps.google.com and get your phone handy, you'll be calling for a while.
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