I am getting a bit nervous as a Marine

[gdcpony]

I agree that there are too many people basically warning military and LEO's to "uphold the Constitution".

These people probably don't understand and I seriously doubt your average Marine will be called upon to kick in his neighbor's door. There is a segment of Law Enforcement that seems to have no problem whatsoever kicking in peoples' doors so I would think the scaredy-cats should be addressing them and not members of our military.

If you are ever asked to invade an American's home to shoot them I hope you will do the right thing.

There is a lot of fear-mongering going on right now from pretty much everywhere. It is very sad.

Worry not about that. I will not- as I have stated- kick in any doors i am not being shot at from. Easy to say since I am not a grunt anyways.

I think what makes all this so bothersome is not just the gun control. Even the dumbest Marine can see the country is getting ready for... something. And it would make anyone pretty nervous to have a restriction placed on their personal protection (from private and government agencies) in these times.

In the military maybe you see everything as a war about to begin. Only with this issue and these times it isn't Korea, Iran, Syria, or anywhere foreign country, but US. It's personal this time. With the economy, social issues, and now the refusal of many to see the difference between free men and slaves (armed and unarmed) you can see where a young guy trained to go to war could get antsy.

Hell, my oldest (14) has said she will die before they take a gun out of our house! Even she through school has caught on to it. she honestly believes the world did end as predicted the moment that monster entered that school. Nothing will be the same "because now they have an excuse, daddy." Maybe I am worrying about that too. My Marines, my kids, love 'em both to death and don't want them making rash decisions based on what may be true, but ill voiced at times.

I must admit I add some fuel with my adamant and outspoken support of the 2A. It is the Amendment that protects the rest in my view. Seeing it take a hit is like seeing my country wasted and I say so often and loudly. It may be rubbing off a bit too much.

 

[Deanimator]

As an infantry officer instructing North Korean weapons and tactics in Korea in '81, I subverted an order by the Division G-2, which I considered both illegal, wildly irresponsible and which could have injured or killed several service members, as well as damaging valuable government property.

 

[Warp]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Pvf7wVsAp60
I worry when I see these on my Facebook page. I am a SSgt in the USMC, and did take an oath. Until I receive an illegal order, the government is not asking me to violate it. If they send me to seize a law biding persons weapons, then I will refuse. If they ask me to harm Americans for no valid reason, I will refuse. Until then I am a Marine.

When you post about resisting any new regulation against the 2A, remember that those enforcing the rules will likely not be the ones who made the rules. I cannot say whether I will obey them, but that will be as a citizen not as a Marine. Getting military members on board with this type of video could lead to me having to face one of my own Marines when they think it is time to arrest government officials for treason. Someone's son, brother, father, or even daughter. I do not want that. I also understand the freedoms I defend allow for this video to be up and am proud of that.

It is up to us as citizens to decide the outcome of any new laws, not as military members. I will defend our right to do so. Contact your reps, make your voice heard, have your friends do the same, and support groups that support the 2nd. For now that is the right thing to do IMHO. Get active in this fight the right way, please! I will back you as I am one of you. That part of the video is great. I have done so as Mr. George D. Clayton.

However, SSgt Clayton has an obligation and for right now that is to follow lawful orders of my superiors- the highest of which was chosen by the citizens whether we like it or not. When that portion conflicts with another portion "defending against all enemies, foreign and domestic" I will choose. Hopefully, I never have to. The military CANNOT dictate domestic policy. If it does we will be in worse shape than we are now.

If this thread is inappropriate, I apologize to the Mods. Please, move or lock it as needed, but please leave it up to be seen. I am simply concerned for the direction of this video and its ilk though.

Doesn't matter. Not one bit.`

 

[Ehtereon11B]

I worry when I see these on my Facebook page. I am a SSgt in the USMC, and did take an oath. Until I receive an illegal order, the government is not asking me to violate it. If they send me to seize a law biding persons weapons, then I will refuse. If they ask me to harm Americans for no valid reason, I will refuse. Until then I am a Marine.

Same boat for me. I am an NCO in the Army as well as a LEO. If I got the order to go door to door and take someone's 2A away, I get to tell them to pound sand twice. I think that little clause in the Oath of enlistment is the only reason why they haven't tried it yet.

 

[Warp]

Same boat for me. I am an NCO in the Army as well as a LEO. If I got the order to go door to door and take someone's 2A away, I get to tell them to pound sand twice. I think that little clause in the Oath of enlistment is the only reason why they haven't tried it yet.

Do you really think they would start out with a door to door confiscation?

They are smarter and more experienced than that. It will be incremental. A handful of 'trouble makers', or whatever fancy label they come up with, will probably be the ice breakers. You're just backing up a few patrol officers because the SWAT team is not available/able to handle this workload at this time. That's all.

 

[Silverado6x6]

First thing they will do is to infiltrate as many militias as possible because people are seeking out ways to coordinate themselves for the Second American Revolution. Knock down the militia, paint them as crazed religious zealots out to get revenge against paying their taxes.

And also will be the plan to target rabblerousers and openly aggressive posters on forums like this. Especially the ones that actually have cojones, brains and tactical training, so they will search for veterans and start rounding them up for mental evaluations.

 

[Al Thompson]

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