I cant believe he said that!!

[Waitone]

When it comes to guns . . . . . and politicians . . . . . paranoia is a perfectly acceptable mindset.

 

[Vern Humphrey]

I personally know or have read reliable accounts of NDs with virtually every kind of firearm you can imagine, from revolvers to M1911s to Glocks to Springfields.

As statisticians say, "If any event has a probability greater than zero, over a long enough run the probability approaches one." Or in plain English, if it can happen, stick around long enough and it will happen.

All firearms have their quirks -- the Glock's is that things can get caught in the trigger guard. One documented ND occurred at a police range where an officer wearing a sweat suit holstered a Glock and a bit of the sweat shirt got holstered with the gun. One of the key goals of safety training is to know these quirks and be constantly aware of them.

 

[RealGun]

So the customer then asked about the safety of the Glock, stating that he had heard that a lot of NDs happen because there is no safety.

I expect that some NDs happen because there IS a safety, taken for granted at the wrong time. I am quite careful when holstering my Kahr double action because it has no safety.

 

[cassandrasdaddy]

why?

"Saying it will definitely happen, is just as bad as saying it will never happen. "


Why is it bad?
i try to be safe but treat a weapon as if it can go off always. keeps it from going from nd and red face to six o'clock news and court.

 

[chickenfried]

hmmm maybe I should've said incorrect instead of bad. But proper respect for firearms and safety prevent ND's, not a belief in the inevitability of ND's. In a moment of carelessness I may have a ND someday. But then again I might go my entire life without one, it's entirely in my hands which turns out to be the case.

 

[steelhead]

I would say you are less likely to have an ND, if you take the attitude that you could have one someday. Having a healthy respect/fear of firearms isn't a bad thing. However, over confidence and the "it won't happen to me attitude" is.

I also don't believe in AD's. It is either a ND or a firearm malfunction (stuck firing pin, etc.). If a human is the cause - then it is a 100% ND. Those that claim an "AD" are just trying to shift blame and responsibility away from their actions.

 

[cassandrasdaddy]

we

have a similar saying "two kinds of motorcyclists those who have crashed and those who will crash."
and i never heard the kinda reaction or ferver in opposition there.

 

[lamazza]

I have been shooting 30+ years and haven't had one...yet?

 

[cassandrasdaddy]

me too

32 years but i've seen 3 2 nd and one a legitamate ad (gun malfunction) the ad was with a guy who had it pointed down range and no harm done.one of the nd's killed my border collie. taught me a real lesson. and my best friend one too.

 

[Ryder]

People say stuff like that because it's easier to repeat what they've heard others say than it is to think for themselves. It makes them feel better pretending their inadequacies are normal. They also project their failures onto capable people to share the blame and lessen their accountability.

You can not change their natural limitations. Just be glad you are don't share them.

 

[Ryder]

we have a similar saying "two kinds of motorcyclists those who have crashed and those who will crash."
and i never heard the kinda reaction or ferver in opposition there.

You have now.

 

[akodo]

I think the spirit of the statemet is true, if not the details. There are plenty of old guys that I know that never had a ND, and are now passed away.

But that's the only way you can ever be sure that you will never have a ND is to lie on your back for a while and push up some dasies.