I don't get all the .22s out there, help...
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Maverick223
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With all due respect, I highly doubt that, .22WMR is a different case diameter (about .24cal. vs .224cal). I am sure that many old .22LRs have a well-worn throat, but length isn't the biggest concern, so that doesn't make a big difference. If it could be easily done (say without a hammer) there would be a whole lot more folks missing fingers or eyes.
If I had to guess I think I know what the lady meant. I think she had seen a longer and a shorter .22 sized rimfire. I am guessing she took ".22 long" to mean the longer .22mag. I think she meant the ".22 short" was the standard .22 long rifle. May not be but if I knew nothing of the difference and saw there was a longer .22 and a shorter .22 that may be the thought process used. In any event you want the box marked .22lr.
rangerruck
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don't forget; besides the powderless or almost powderless cb rounds, you also have the Aguila colibri and super colibri's. Those last two are single shot, or bolt rifle propositions for the most part; no chance they have enough oomph, to cycle a semi auto.
Lastly, neither of the 3- 17 rimfires will work in your 22; 17hmr, 17mach2, 17aguila.
Lastly, neither of the 3- 17 rimfires will work in your 22; 17hmr, 17mach2, 17aguila.
Ughh
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You mean 17 rimfires will not work, in general, in a 22 lr rifle?
Or just those 3? Are there more .17s??
rcmodel
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Seems nobody has mentioned the .22 WRF yet.
It is the grand-daddy of the .22 WMR aka .22 Magnum.
This is exactly the .38 Spl in a .357 everyone keeps mentioning.
A lower powered round that fits the .22 Mag chambers.
No, it won't fit in your .22 RF.
.22 Short HP's fit a lot of roles perfectly.
Teaching kids to shoot.
Coon hunting and shooting them out of trees at night.
Pest control around the farm.
And I have some old Winchester pumps that hold 21 of them per loading!
rc
It is the grand-daddy of the .22 WMR aka .22 Magnum.
This is exactly the .38 Spl in a .357 everyone keeps mentioning.
A lower powered round that fits the .22 Mag chambers.
No, it won't fit in your .22 RF.
Get real.
.22 Short HP's fit a lot of roles perfectly.
Teaching kids to shoot.
Coon hunting and shooting them out of trees at night.
Pest control around the farm.
And I have some old Winchester pumps that hold 21 of them per loading!
rc
Not quite. Lots of Winchester 1890s were chambered in short only (they're pumps). I have one I inherited from my grandfather through my dad. It's a fun shooter, and with its 26" barrel, it's very quiet.
non2os13
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cci cb shorts are my round of choice in my marlin 981t. the tube holds a crap load of them and they are quiet. they will kill squirrels very well also.
Rem.222
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I have a Winchester 1890 22 Long and will not feed Shorts or Long Rifles. It's a pump with a hammer. Great old gun used to kill a few pdogs, rabbits and tin cans. Now ammo is hard to come by I have 5-600 rounds and buy more when I can. Marlin 60 is a great LR shooter. Ray
Ughh
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lol, everyone thinks I made a good choice.
I really couldn't deal with all the magazines anymore so I knew the .22 rifle couldn't be a Ruger 10/22
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No the .22 mag is a completely different cartridge.
Look at post number three in this thread.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=499925
rangerruck
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those 17's are the only rimfire 17's out there; oh there are some others- wilcat propositions mostly, and several centerfires, but they won't come close to even entering your rifle. So just those 17 rounds are the rimfires you are likely to see. And no, they do not work at all, in a 22 rifle, unless you just want a bullet to go bouncing around and down inside your bbl.
Caliper_Mi
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They work just fine in a semi auto. It just loses its semi auto-ness and you have to manually cycle the bolt each time. No biggie as long as the shooter is aware of this.
I've had plenty of fun shooting Remington CeeBees from my Remington 597. Once I was just shooting out an open window and it was nice not have to worry about tracking down brass inside the house
josh...just josh
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It absolutely is different. Just because they use the same bullet size doesn't mean that they have to use the same case diameter. The mag has a thicker case, which is how it deals with the higher pressure that they round is able to produce over the .22LR.With all due respect, I highly doubt that, .22WMR is a different case diameter (about .24cal. vs .224cal). I am sure that many old .22LRs have a well-worn throat, but length isn't the biggest concern, so that doesn't make a big difference. If it could be easily done (say without a hammer) there would be a whole lot more folks missing fingers or eyes.
shotgunsrfun
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ruger 10/22 is .22Long rifle LR
Maverick223
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.22LR and .22WMR are actually the same pressure (24kPSI), and I don't believe the case is thicker on either, it is solely due to the heeled bullet design (smaller bullet diameter where it enters the case) of the .22LR (as well as Long and Short).
No that is not what he is saying. You will not be able to get a 22 magnum into your Marlin Model 60. The 22 mag cartridge is too long, and the case is too wide, to chamber. It is an entirely different cartridge from what your Model 60 will shoot. It won't fit your gun.
I never see 22 long cartridges for sale anywhere anymore. I have a browning auto 22 rifle that is chambered for 22 short only. Great squirrel and rabbit gun and all around fun plinker. I've had it since 1969. As far as seeing the 22 short in flight, the last time I shot a rifle chambered in 22 lr it was a very sunny day and I could see those also. I usually buy my 22 shorts by the 500 round brick. Those 22 shorts are much better bullets than some people think. Remington used to make an auto loader that would handle all 3 22's it was the model 550 and you could load the tubular mag with 22 shorts, longs and long rifles and it would spit 'em out all day. I believe winchester made one also but I can't remember the model number.
Ughh
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Geez. That WMR looks like a beast compared to .22 lr.That's it exactly.
Pictured, l-r: Short, Long Rifle, WMR
I'm assuming WMR must be twice as much as .22 LR, which defeats the purpose of 'cheap plinking' huh?
22 wmr neck diameter .240
rim diameter .291
22 lr neck diameter .225
rim diameter .275
If you try to put the 22 wmr in a plain old 22 be it short, long or long rifle it will take some force. Like wise the 22 s,l and lr will fit the chamber of the 22 wmr but loosely and likely split and be stuck upon firing.
Don't do it.
rim diameter .291
22 lr neck diameter .225
rim diameter .275
If you try to put the 22 wmr in a plain old 22 be it short, long or long rifle it will take some force. Like wise the 22 s,l and lr will fit the chamber of the 22 wmr but loosely and likely split and be stuck upon firing.
Don't do it.
dagger dog
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Guess what?
This confusion is only with the rimfire .22's, you have another group of .22 cal. out there also,CENTERFIRES, and not just long guns but hand guns too!
Ain't it great?
This confusion is only with the rimfire .22's
, you have another group of .22 cal. out there also,CENTERFIRES, and not just long guns but hand guns too! Ain't it great
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