I dont get the big GUNS?

[WYcoyote]

mmm... my .300 H&H was modern in 1925.

 

[.333 Nitro Express]

 

[H&Hhunter]

Really? Do I have to define it--for "H&H" Hunter?

Of course, anything introduced after 1925. If it wasn't first employed by hunters who addressed each other with "I say, old chap..." it is ultra-modern to me.

I am currently using these new fangled "Nitro Express" rounds which from your internet handle I can see that you also have discovered this modern miracle. Shock of all shocks they no longer use Black powder OR nitro cellulose! They are using an brand new type of powder now called "smoke less". I have one in .47 Caliber only because they've recently made the .45 caliber Nitro Express illegal with the uprising in the Sudan and all. Amazing stuff really.

I also have a new type design rifle. This one is truly mind blowing it is called a .404 Jefferys now grasp this IF you can...It is a .423 or a .419 caliber depending on the manufacture that holds FOUR rounds thus the .40 oh 4, can you imagine!

Last but not least I have been using a new caliber called an H&H Magnum chambered in .375 caliber it drives three different weight bullets a 230 gr, 270 gr or a 300 gr full patch or exposed lead bullet at blistering speeds. John Taylor reports that the 270 gr bullets flies with such incredible speed and momentum that he recently shot through 7 eland bulls which were lined up with ONE bullet!

Shocking I'm sure, but these modern miracles of science never fail to amaze! Good hunting ole boy!

H&Hhunter.

 

[.333 Nitro Express]

Coffee... nose... snorting... barely missing my computer keyboard...

That was priceless, H&H!

 

[ZeroJunk]

There is no fundamental difference bewteen cartridges. So, you make it shorter, longer, fatter, or slimmer and us old farts don't like it because it is shorter, longer, fatter, or slimmer. Or worse, we don't like it because of the name they put on it.

Who cares. Go buy one you like and shoot something.

 

[razorback2003]

You can kill just about anything but dangerous bears with a 243 or 30-30 if your range is right. People kill stuff with bows and crossbows, why wouldn't a 243 work even on a moose as long as you are a good shooter. I think both the 260 and 7mm 08 are great do all deer and up cartridges, except dangerous bears.

I'd take someone proficient any day with a 22 and a 243 over someone with a 300 Win Mag who might be scared of the rifle and shoot once a year.

 

[.333 Nitro Express]

Razorback--

True, but the opposite also holds, since we're talking hyperbolic what-if scenarios. I'd take someone who handloads for and shoots his .375 H&H every month, knows it like the back of his hand (and still does not trust himself to shoot from far away) rather than some recoil-shy city slicker who reads too many gun magazines, shoots once in a blue moon and thinks that shooting game at 400 yards with a .223 is the height of sportsmanship.

 

[7mmstalker]

I love my 30-06, got a 270 a few years ago, wow, that one really shoots good, and kills like lightning! My 243 is a joy to shoot and quite accurate with nearly any load. Of course, my all time favorite 7mm, currently have a Rem.mag, and a 7x57, both straight shooters, haven't hunted with them yet, but either one will work for WA state big-game.
I'm starting to forget the recoil of the 338Win mag that was sold several years back, thinkin' a 338-06 would be just right! No desire to have another 416, recoil was all that I remember about shooting that rifle!
Why have bigger calibers? I dunno, fun, curiosity, "collecting". Why not?

 

[hq]

We're getting back to the point I made earlier. It's perfectly possible to kill a 1500lb moose at a long distance with a .22lr by shooting through the eye, but hunting being a very unpredictable sport, I prefer far more margin of error. When I was much younger I still had an infinite confidence in my abilities, carried a .243 and sneered at anyone who chose a larger caliber than "necessary".

Then I grew up. It kind of happens naturally when there just happens to be one tiny, bullet-diverting tree branch between you and the game animal, you take the shot with utter confidence and spend next seven hours tracking a wounded animal that took off and ran a couple of miles. Anyone who claims that he can place a bullet with perfect accuracy in a hunting situation every time is not a hunter but a genuine real-life magician, or just full of... well, you know what. Margin of error is for the rest of us.

 

[Arkansas Paul]

You can kill just about anything but dangerous bears with a 243 or 30-30 if your range is right.

And we all know that just because you can, automatically means that you should.

 

[.333 Nitro Express]

HQ--bingo.

+1

 

[jimmyraythomason]

When I was much younger I still had an infinite confidence in my abilities, carried a .243 and sneered at anyone who chose a larger caliber than "necessary".

Well I'm a couple months shy of 60 years lod and have been hunting since my dad let me tag along at age three while he squirrel hunted. so I'm about as grown up as I will ever be and though I don't sneer at another's choice of shootin' iron I do believe that if a hunter can't kill anything short of the big bears with a .243 on a regular basis he might want to take up bowling instead. Bullet deflection can happen to any projectile resulting in a miss or a cripple regardless of caliber. If that is a major concern maybe a better choice is a 12ga with slugs.

 

[pikid89]

In florida, we hunt our not so big deer and pretty big tough hogs with .223s .22-250s and .22 WMRs pretty regular...i even know a couple guys that hunt hogs exclusively with .22 Hornets and .204 Rugers

In all my days of hunting (almost 15 year...im only 23) Ive never met anyone personally that hunts in Florida with anything larger than .30-06, save the one oddball that hunts with us with a 7 mag...and doesnt leave much as far as venison shoulders after the kill

Not long ago I was told I dont know much about hog hunting in a thread on here when I said I preferred .22 mag for hogs...Ive killed many dozens of hogs, and only saw 1 that wasnt a one shot drop from the 22 magnum
...then again, we try not to make a habit of pissing them off first...never understood the point of getting them all riled up with dogs and harder to kill when you could just nail him behind the ear from 60 yards away...

 

[hq]

if a hunter can't kill anything short of the big bears with a .243 on a regular basis he might want to take up bowling instead.

Someone might say the same thing about the .22lr and eye-shot, in which case we'll see an abundance of classified ads, "WTT: Hunting rifle, .243, trade for a bowling ball".