I Don't Hate Glocks any more

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When I lived in Oregon I concluded a Glock was a good choice for carry. I picked up a 30S (10 rounds of .45 per mag), changed out the sights and replaced the staple gun trigger. I felt real comfortable with this doodlebug for carry, but when I want to enjoy shooting a handgun I go right to my 1911's.
 
I Still think they are Kel-Tec fugly, but they always shoot well in my hands. I had a 21, only reason I still don't is it didn't like my handloads, and my 1911 gobbled them right up. (I load to ball specs) Someday I will probably break down and get a G19, when I am too old and decrepit to take the recoil of my .45's and .38+P snub.
 
I've never hated Glocks, just never been willing to pay what they want for them given other options.

A couple of months ago I was at a friends private range session and got to try out a gen four G17 that belonged to a buddy of mine. First Glock I've ever shot. It was not bad and I shot it pretty good, but it wasn't what I was used to for sure. I let my buddy try out my TP9SA and he was very pleasantly surprised with the trigger and how it shot.

I will soon be in the market for a G19 sized pistol, but unless I find an incredible deal I will likely not end up with a G19. I'm looking hard at the TP9SF Elite to fill that role.
 
Hate is a strong word, I'd take one if it were my only choice but they never felt right in my hand.

As long as it's reliable carry whatever you shoot best.
 
I started my handgun owning life with a Glock 23, and have had various Glocks off and on since. Currently I have a Gen 4 19 and a Gen 3 RTF2 19. The Gen 4 is about to go away in favor of a P30SK V1. I have always considered Glock to be a good, accurate, reliable, easy to use gun that is of good build quality. I just have never cared for the ergonomics of them. I can shoot them pretty well...in fact nearly as well as the Sig P229 that I carry every day. The fact that I don't shoot the Glock as well as what I choose to carry, however, keeps it relegated to the safe as a range gun. If I had to rely on the gun for any serious purpose, I would have no problem doing so, and I have never not recommended Glock as a gun for others to try out. I have always qualified that recommendation, however, with the typical, try a bunch of the comparable guns too since one of those may be a better fit for you.
 
When my agency transitioned to Glocks, I was thrilled. I went from a 5 shot .38Spl. revolver with no real sights to an 11 shot 9mm M26. Double the capacity, more powerful round, night sights, actually more concealable. What was not to like?

Retired, but I still have it. I mostly carry a Ruger LCP, but will never sell the Glock.
 
I never liked the way they felt in my hand. But one day I had the opportunity to trade my LC9 towards a good deal on a G43. After I shot it for the first time, my prejudice was suddenly gone. My shooting buddy liked it so much that he bought a full-sized one in 40 caliber.
 
I love my glocks, have owned several, but the "Baby" series IMHO are the hardest to shoot. G19 with a G17 mag is my current "go to hell" pistol.
 
Glocks never appealed to me until my son brought over a new G21 he'd just bought. We went to the range and put a few rounds through it and I was hooked. I now own a G23 and a G27,
 
I bought an early Glock 17 not long after they first appeared on the market. I was more interested in the polymer frame technology and design features than I was with how the gun felt in my hand. The gun has always done well at the range though I think my Ruger SR9c and Steyr M9 both have slightly better triggers than the Glock 17. I rarely take it out of the safe these days as I much prefer my old reliable standby Browning Hi-Power along with a CZ P01 to keep it company.

 
After shooting a G 19 a few times I had to have one. Never regretted it later like I've done before with other stuff that I "had to have". But I can echo those complaints about Glock factory sights. That's not a major problem, though; Trijicon (and many others) make good sights for Glocks. Here's a set of Trijicons..... IMG_1701.JPG
 
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Dragon breath said:
I have no complaints about Glock functionality. The reason that I no longer own one is the ergonomics.
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The Glock is a very dated design that has not been significantly improved since it was first introduced. While companies like Smith & Wesson and Ruger undoubtly benefitted from Glock's design they are a much more refined design. While I always prefer a DA/SA semi-auto I like the S&W M&P with the APEX trigger and the Ruger SR9c.
 
BSA1 said:
The Glock is a very dated design that has not been significantly improved since it was first introduced.
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30 some odd years is dated???

I do however, agree that they went from innovator to resting on their laurels.. Some will argue "why change what works" and some will argue "its the same ol crap"
 
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While I always prefer a DA/SA semi-auto I like the S&W M&P with the APEX trigger and the Ruger SR9c.
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Love the ergonomics of the Ruger SR9c and for how nice the trigger was right out of the box.
 
tarosean said:
30 some odd years is dated???
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Yes. Glock is dated. Compare a Gen1 and a Gen4 side by side. What has changed? Grip texture. Backstraps. Rail on full size guns. Same trigger, same sights, same frame and slides. Sure they were innovative when they first came out. But they really are a one trick pony when it comes to firearm innovation.
 
herrwalther said:
Yes. Glock is dated. Compare a Gen1 and a Gen4 side by side. What has changed? Grip texture. Backstraps. Rail on full size guns. Same trigger, same sights, same frame and slides. Sure they were innovative when they first came out. But they really are a one trick pony when it comes to firearm innovation.
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You could just about say the same exact thing about the oh-so-holy 1911. Not that I'm a 1911 hater. Just saying.
 
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You could just about say the same exact thing about the oh-so-holy 1911. Not that I'm a 1911 hater. Just saying.
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Maybe, but not to the same degree. The 1911 is over 100 years old. And has had more innovation because of the age. Lightweight frames, railed frames, nearly every type of grip panel design and thickness you could think of. And nearly every company makes a 1911 of some type to suit the vast majority of tastes and preferences. Colt made the original 1911s and not much else for the consumer (ie not government). The company is struggling financially for bad decisions in not keeping up with markets.
 
herrwalther said:
Maybe, but not to the same degree. The 1911 is over 100 years old. And has had more innovation because of the age. Lightweight frames, railed frames, nearly every type of grip panel design and thickness you could think of. And nearly every company makes a 1911 of some type to suit the vast majority of tastes and preferences. Colt made the original 1911s and not much else for the consumer (ie not government). The company is struggling financially for bad decisions in not keeping up with markets.
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1911 was started in 1911 and for all intents and purposes it's the same gun now that it was in 1911. Sure there's been tweaks and updates but it's the same gun. I'm sorry but I laugh at posters here who are saying Glock is stagnant. Compared to the evolution of the Browning 1911 (or lack of evolution) it's a dynamic design that shoots how many different calibers (9mm, .380, .45, 10mm, 40S&W, .357sig and can be modified to shoot calibers from the .22 to the .50)?

Puh-leeeze people, get off your high horses. Glock has revolutionized the pistol industry and all the other makers copied Glock.
 
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Never hated Glocks - (never shot one) always read the flame wars between the haters and lovers.
Bought my first one. It is a GREAT pistol. Why did I wait so long???
 
The S&W M&P9c is dated as far as I'm concerned. How can a "modern" pistol design that when trying to get a high hold feels like the gun is trying to slip up out of my hand.

The Glock with its angled grip frame just locks my hand in place. I can go from my 1911's to the Glock easily and it point just as naturally.
 
FL-NC said:
You could just about say the same exact thing about the oh-so-holy 1911. Not that I'm a 1911 hater. Just saying.
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Not exactly. The 1911 is a particular model made by a bunch of different manufacturers. Glock is a manufacturer that really only makes one gun in different sizes and calibers.

For instance, SIG makes a 1911, but they also make P-220/226/229/etc., and the P-320, and they make rifles, etc.

Glock makes a polymer, striker fired pistol. That's it. It's not a bad gun, it's really quite good, but they haven't done much innovation since the first G17 came out a little over 30 years ago.
 
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