I expect prices on 223/5.56 to start to come down fairly fast.

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When prices a few years back for 223/5.56 jumped from $0.35/rd to $0.50/rd, it took a long while for the price to get back to where I would buy it at $0.35/rd.

Still no 223/5.56 at my local Dicks in Central New Jersey, but it looks as if prices are starting to ease down from the $0.80/rd that I was seeing on Gunbroker.

I suspect that there are not a lot of buyers left out there who will pay more than $375 for a 500 round case ($0.75/rd).

When it catches on that the prices are coming down I expect then to come down fast. I would expect a lot of support at $200 for a 500 rd case ($0.40/rd), but I fully expect the prices to get down to that level this summer.
 
This isn't 08, the most anti-gun/anti-American to ever hold the presidency has won re-election in an electoral landslide, he hadn't even been sworn in again when he declared virtual unconditional war on the 2nd amendment, and he has half of the nation or better, firmly in his back pocket, almost all of whom want the constitution either modified, or dispensed with entirely!

Good luck with those falling prices.

P.S. I think many of these types of threads are virtually trolling for action, there is absolutely zero evidence to support your belief, its literally magical/wishful thinking.
 
It might be just me, but as long as I have have 100 rounds of each held in reserve, another 50 rd box .38 Special's is much more valuable to me than another 20 rd box of 223's.

I can see paying $20.00 for a box of 50 .38's, and I just did. But I am not interested in paying $16 for 20 round box of .223's.
 
Ammo availability is increasing steadily and prices are coming down. That may not be good news for people reselling Wal-mart ammo at gun shows, but it is happening if you shop at least a little bit.
 
I'm paying 7.25 for 20rds at my LGS. I am limited to 3 boxes a day until supply returns. That's 25 cents more than I used to. I think it's fair given the demand. On the Internet, it's 3 times that. I also bought 22lr at 26 dollars for a 525rd brick. Buy local.


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My local Walmart in NC has what looked like hundreds of boxes of Prvi Partizan .223 for $7 something a box. Three box limit of course.
 
Of course prices will come back down. Unless there's some legislation that prohibits the manufacture and importation of ammunition (other than from China, of course), the supply will meet the demand. To think otherwise is incredibly shortsighted.

Those who produce the stuff don't do so out of charity; there's nothing altruistic about it. It's a business, the production a venture done solely for profit. There's an incredible demand currently and production will be incrementally increased to meet it by those who wish to capitalize on the opportunity before the competition does.
It's a corporate game of Hungry Hungry Hippos with the industry feverishly tapping their lever for your dollar, and why wouldn't they?

Eventually equilibrium will provail as always. Again, barring any unforeseen legislation, it's not a matter of if, but when. With nothing credible on the table, I'd venture to say "when" isn't far off.

That said, my expectations are for availability to soon settle back to where it was before this latest panic by the sheeple, not necessarily the prices. That may take a bit more patience.
 
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Based on 2008/09 ammo will be tough to get for the remainder of this year.
 
"he has half of the nation or better, firmly in his back pocket, almost all of whom want the constitution either modified, or dispensed with entirely!"

That's quite the tinfoil conspiracy...

Anyway, on to the OP...

I hope you're right. I think federal efforts at gun control are going to fall short, it's the state-by-state action that concerns me. There's no ammo on the shelves at LGS around me -- except for .40 Cal, which I find somewhat amusing.

When in doubt, reload your own!
 
I'm not so optimistic. In 2008 although there was a slight panic and run on guns/ammo, the general consensus was that Obama wouldn't go too far or act on anything because it would spell a deathblow to any reelection attempt. Fast forward to today. Obviously he doesn't have to worry about reelection. Secondly he won in a convincing fashion and a sizable chunk of the population is economically compromised, rejecting traditional American values, and voting for whatever socialist candidate will give them the most free stuff. Mass shootings are now the hot topic that they weren't in 2008. One more whackjob goes on a shooting spree and you can kiss readily available ammo away for a very long time. (and yes it will happen again) Obama and the Democrats now feel they have the majority of the nation on their side, financially dependent on them, paranoid about school shooters, and willing to embrace anti Second Amendment legislation. I don't see myself and people like me feeling comfortable any time soon. If I see the bottom drop out on firearms/ammo prices you better believe I'm buying some and loads of others will do the same thing. Hence it aint gonna happen anytime soon.
 
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Yes, it will come down...anyone who thinks otherwise doesn't understand basic economics.

Obama can't waive his magic wand and stop the manufacture & purchase of ammunition...
 
I've noticed that these things go in waves. Right now, you can buy all the 5.56 you want online. It is expensive, but it's available.

Right now, however, I can't find any 7.62 x 39 for my AK. Early on in this mess, it was just the opposite. I could buy all the 7.62 x 39 I wanted (at a higher price, of course).
 
"Yes, it will come down...anyone who thinks otherwise doesn't understand basic economics."

Basic economics says that for it to come down, production has to dramatically increase or demand has to fall. Most ammo companies are producing at full capacity so production increase wont happen. Demand fall? Maybe, but I don't think so. At least not in the immediate future.

"Obama can't waive his magic wand and stop the manufacture & purchase of ammunition"

Oh man I would not underestimate their intentions one bit.
 
Well it was about a week ago that I caught the tail end of a dispute over who was allowed to purchase the sole box of federal bulk 223. Was not pretty. As far as availability 223/556 is not available. Yea you can buy a box of 20 if you are lucky enough to be there when it goes on the shelf but 20 rounds just doesn't cut it. Lets not forget that the ammuntion makers have to restock the entire nation right down to you and me. Thats going to take a lot of time.
 
Maybe the Sequester will put the skids on Homeland Defense's giant ammunition order and that will help the situation.

It seems the panic buying is worse this time around as compared to 2009. Besides ammunition, reloading supplies are virtually non-exisitant as well. Of course, the military is not as much embroiled in the middle east these days.

An electoral "landside" does not necessarily mean a popular vote landslide. With the winner take all system for assigning the electoral votes, a candidate only has to win a state by one vote and grabs all the electoral votes. (There are one or two exceptions to the winner take all system)

Of course, folks in the White House want you to think otherwise.
 
Locally, dfw TX, 223/5.56 fmj is running about $1.10 per round in 500 round units at gun shows, but lots available. .22lr and 9mm are much harder to find and have prices at are just unrealistic. 50 round Tula steel at $49, 500rd .22lr federal bulk box $245.00, hopefully no buyers. Walmart still getting some small quantities every day or so. Walmart prices have not changed.
 
Yes, it will come down...anyone who thinks otherwise doesn't understand basic economics.

This isn't Economics 101. This is Economocs 601 Graduate School that states that when the Government bans possession of certain goods it increases the desirably of the goods and black market forces steps in and drives the price of the goods up.

Obama can't waive his magic wand and stop the manufacture & purchase of ammunition...

It doesn't take a magic wand. Only willing politicians in positions of power in all areas of government...local, State and Federal.

It is hard for some to accept that Obama and other like minded politicians on all levels of government have declared war on all gun owners.
 
Ammo will come back down. Ammo will go back up. The time between both peaks and valleys changes, but the pattern stays the same. Reload, and don't go shooting as much. I still take people out, but its more of a quick day of a few mags instead of ammo boxes
 
This ammo/gun shortage is the worst I've ever seen and I've been around a long time.
Thinking it's going away any time soon is just wishful thinking.

In any case I hope this time people wake up and maintain a year or two stock of ammo for the next shortage.



Reload, and don't go shooting as much.
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Reload, plan ahead and stock up and no matter what, you can shoot as much as you want.:)

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It is hard for some to accept that Obama and other like minded politicians on all levels of government have declared war on all gun owners.
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And the Constitution.
 
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