I expect prices on 223/5.56 to start to come down fairly fast.

[brunowbe]

I've noticed that these things go in waves. Right now, you can buy all the 5.56 you want online. It is expensive, but it's available.

Right now, however, I can't find any 7.62 x 39 for my AK. Early on in this mess, it was just the opposite. I could buy all the 7.62 x 39 I wanted (at a higher price, of course).

I'm finding quite the opposite in my area, I can find 7.62x39 (I just bought 400 rounds of Wolf at $5.99 a box of 20 at a local store this past week), but I cannot find any .223/5.56 as that is what everyone is buying up. I know that the store has not been putting it out on the shelf, you have had to ask for it.

Right now that's ok with me as I only have one rifle in .223/5.56, while I have 3 in 7.62x39.

 

[Averageman]

You can find much better deals online for 7.62X39 right now than in WalMart.
I have yet to find .223, but I did have 1K of several different calibers deliverd last week.

 

[LevelHead]

When I can get a case of 1200 IMI 5.56 M855 for $350 again, the panic will be over.

 

[Prophet]

I agree. There's still not much available around here, but what is available is steadily dropping in price. My favorite LGS seems to be sitting on a lot of AR-related stuff right now, I don't expect they'll be able to continue to sit on it for the prices marked.

 

[Torian]

Being able to find .223 / 5.56 in the stores varies greatly throughout the country. Finding it at my local Walmart?

Forget about it.

If Obama (Dictator in Chief) doesn't meddle in the ammo market, and allows supply / demand to normalize, then yes it will come down. However, he is classically known for subverting the Constitution and bypassing Congress by the use of executive orders to push his agenda.

It would only take a few actions on his part to keep the prices of ammo very high...and cause gun owners grief for years. I don't think he is really too interested in votes from this constituency...

 

[allaroundhunter]

Buy local.

.... My local shop charges

$45 for 20 rounds of American Eagle .223
$200 for 525 rounds of bulk Federal .22
and $60 for Federal Gold Medal Match .308 (Usually goes for $20)

..... Yeah, I'll avoid buying local

 

[bushmaster1313]

$45 for 20 rounds of American Eagle .223
$200 for 525 rounds of bulk Federal .22

Didn't the Republic of Texas go to war with Mexico because they were charging prices like that?

 

[Queen_of_Thunder]

It might be just me, but as long as I have have 100 rounds of each held in reserve, another 50 rd box .38 Special's is much more valuable to me than another 20 rd box of 223's.

I can see paying $20.00 for a box of 50 .38's, and I just did. But I am not interested in paying $16 for 20 round box of .223's.

Thats simply not enough.

 

[Onward Allusion]

Here's an observation. Magazine and gun prices have pretty much stabilized and I've been actually seeing them come down. The ammo prices, however, have been creeping up steadily. $70 to $80 for a brick of el cheapo CCI Blazer and $100 or more for CCI Mini-Mags. 9mm around 3x to 4x their previous cost. Local store shelves are bare save for odd-ball calibers.

This is definitely one way to create gun control. One can have all the magazines and guns but tax the ammo and reloading supplies so heavily that most people can't afford more than a couple of boxes.

 

[LevelHead]

Don't forget that here in NJ it may soon be illegal to buy ammo online.

 

[Onward Allusion]

bushmaster1313
It might be just me, but as long as I have have 100 rounds of each held in reserve, another 50 rd box .38 Special's is much more valuable to me than another 20 rd box of 223's.

I guess it depends on intent. If all one does is load their 38 revolver for a rainy day, a couple of boxes should last a lifetime if all remains rosy from an economic and political perspective for the next 50 years.

 

[bushmaster1313]

Don't forget that here in NJ it may soon be illegal to buy ammo online.

This is a very big deal for me, because I like to shoot .257 Roberts, reduced recoil .270's and reduced recoil 00 Buckshot.

I guess it depends on intent. If all one does is load their 38 revolver for a rainy day, a couple of boxes should last a lifetime if all remains rosy from an economic and political perspective for the next 50 years.

My point is that as long as I have my rainy day stash, I am content to wait until the price is more reasonable to stock-up on bang away at the range ammo.

 

[Balrog]

We are only one mass shooting away from the next panic.

 

[icanthitabarn]

The legacy bestowed on him will be more epic

 

[mrvco]

Funny how much different what I read on the Internet is from what I see in the majority of my LGS's and am able to order on-line.

 

[Queen_of_Thunder]

" .... My local shop charges

$45 for 20 rounds of American Eagle .223 $200 for 525 rounds of bulk Federal .22 and $60 for Federal Gold Medal Match .308 (Usually goes for $20"







Sounds like one of the local gun shops in El Paso. Thankfully the two LGS's on the west side of town are not selling at those prices plus our local Academy's are keeping prices as normal as possible.

 

[allaroundhunter]

This is a very big deal for me, because I like to shoot .257 Roberts, reduced recoil .270's and reduced recoil 00 Buckshot.

That is fixable.... with a reloading press....

 

[BoilerUP]

This isn't Economics 101. This is Economocs 601 Graduate School that states that when the Government bans possession of certain goods it increases the desirably of the goods and black market forces steps in and drives the price of the goods up.

Has there been some ammunition ban proposed I'm not aware of?

 

[Spymaster]

Based on 2008/09 ammo will be tough to get for the remainder of this year.

Which is precisely what the industry itself is communicating, and its not just ammo, its certain firearms, magazines, parts, and even lubricants. Factor in that everytime Mr president opens up his mouth, he precipitates another run, factor in another atrocity, and we begin to see the pointlessness in pronouncing that its all coming back to earth.

One other thing which is ominous, but needs to be impressed upon every gun owning Americans mind, the midterm is only 20-months away, and at this very moment its looking like a solid lock that the anti-gun political party gets back its supermajority. Geez, what do we think that will portend for us?

 

[joeschmoe]

Do you expect the price of gasoline to come down quickly too?

IMO, we will slowly go down to a "new normal". Not the old normal. We will never see '08 prices again on guns or ammo. The dollar isn't worth what it used to be either.

Supply versus demand + shrinking value of the dollar is what sets the price.

 

[Spymaster]

"he has half of the nation or better, firmly in his back pocket, almost all of whom want the constitution either modified, or dispensed with entirely!"

That's quite the tinfoil conspiracy...

Anyway, on to the OP...

I hope you're right. I think federal efforts at gun control are going to fall short, it's the state-by-state action that concerns me. There's no ammo on the shelves at LGS around me -- except for .40 Cal, which I find somewhat amusing.

When in doubt, reload your own!

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/01/majority-sees-obamas-gun-control-plan-favorably/

You do so much for the 2nd, as you attempt to marginalize the truth...Wake up and stop listening to MSNBC every night.

 

[Averageman]

I have to agree with Spymaster.
When so many are dependant upon foodstamps, welfare and unemployment; why should they disagree?
Want to get a dog to learn a trick?
Get a treat.
Want to see a adult American to Vote your way, distribute his food and money.

 

[Sam Cade]

When so many are dependant upon foodstamps, welfare and unemployment; why should they disagree?
Want to get a dog to learn a trick?
Get a treat.

About half of food stamp recipients are children.
8% are elderly.
About 25% are disabled.
About 40% of food stamp recipients HAVE jobs.

Want to see a adult American to Vote your way, distribute his food and money.

I fail to see how keeping the poorest Americans from starving to death has any effect on 2A issues.

 

[Rock185]

I suspect I'm a bit, OK a Lot, older than most of you, and have been a shooter my whole life. This situation, for gun owners, shooters and the 2A in general, is unlike 1968, 1994, 2008, etc. It seems a perfect storm is occurring to the benefit of anti-gun politicians and their many, many millions of supporters. I believe I have a basic community college, and life experience, understanding of supply and demand in a free market. I don't believe it is as simple as supply and demand economics when government has indicated what it wants to do reference guns and ammo, and what New York has demonstrated government can do, in the space of about two days in passing Draconian new firearms and ammo legislation. Now other states, like our neighbor Colorado, are trying to emulate, or surpass NY, even before the Federal government votes on new restrictive legislation. Anyway, I see regular comments about hoping things get back to "normal" soon with firearm and ammo, prices, availability, etc. Well, I hope so too, but when there is the looming spectre of government, relatively quickly as in NY, banning or retricting many of the things gun owners are passionate about, I believe there is going to be a "new normal"...

 

[KimberUltra]

I agree with rock. my local stores are cleaned the ef out of pretty much all common ammo. im talking empty shelves and shipments are on backorder and dont even make it to the shelves for people who dont have orders. I talked to a man who worked for baretta and he said he spent 10k on ammo from the local cabelas alone. he made one huge order when the shtf and he recieves little by little whenever the ammo comes in. people doing things like that are preventing anyone else from seeing ammo on the shelves which is increasing demand by the day.

ive heard our other big lgs is dry as well. they havent had ammo on the shelves in weeks.

this wont get better as long as a liberal is running the show. unfortunately with the majority of the country being anti gun now all a liberal has to do to win any future elections is to say "banning guns" and any running conservative might as well cut his losses and quit.