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I might be going crazy! can't seem to rationalize a new gun, please help!

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by sam700, Oct 20, 2008.

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  1. sam700

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    I’m a bit worried about my sanity right now. No matter how hard I think about it, I can’t see much need for another gun!! I think there might be something seriously wrong with me. There’s lots of guns that I want to buy, but pretty much everything seems to be a duplicate of something I already own. Please make some suggestions as to what I should buy this year.

    • Right now, I own a 10/22 target rifle which I use for most of my practicing.

    • A Remington 700 Varmint rifle in .308 Win. I use this for long range target shooting. It’s also my deer rifle when I don’t have to walk too far or am planning on a long shot.

    • A Kimber Montana in .300 Win Mag. This is my go to hunting rifle for all big game. I use it for 75% of my deer hunting. I also take it backpack hunting in Northern Wisconsin and the UP of Michagan. It’s been to Alaska a couple of times as well. Basically, I use this whenever I’m hunting something bigger than deer or I need to carry the gun more than a few miles.

    • 870 Express with both slug and smooth bore, need I say more?

    • Smith and Wessin 629 .44 revolver with a 5 inch barrel. I take this as a sidearm in bear country. I also keep it around just in case I ever decide to hunt with a handgun. 5 inches is about as short as would be practical for deer hunting. It’s a bit heavy for a self defense gun.

    • AR 15 M4 type. Basically, just a toy for plinking out to 200 yards. I did take it deer hunting one year when I back pack hunted the national forest in northern Wisconsin. That was before I had my Montana and I sure as heck wasn’t going to backpack hunt with my 700 varmint rifle!! I might take the AR hunting some time if I wasn’t something short as both of my other riles have 26 inch barrels.

    So here’s what I was thinking of buying.

    • CZ bolt action 22. Would be kind of nice since I don’t own a pretty looking gun and these have a nice look to them. Although my 10/22 has a bull barrel, the CZ would probably be much more accurate. On the other hand, do I really want to spend $800 on a gun and scope for something marginally more accurate that looks pretty?
    • Marlin guide gun 45-70. Thought a brush gun would be pretty nice, especially for up in Alaska in the thick alders. On the other hand if I’m hunting brush what’s wrong with my 870 slug gun? Also, when I go to Alaska, I typically walk thorough alders to get above the treeline. I can only carry one gun. Sure a guide gun might be better in the brush, but I’m only there for a short while till I get out in the open, hence I bring my Montana.
    • Smith and Wesson .357 PD. You know the super lightweight scandium one. I was thinking this would be great as I do a lot of backpacking in bear country. I usually lug my 629, but it’s a bit too heavy for backpacking. If I apply for my CCW, thins would be a pretty easy thing to carry around as well. The downside is it’s a bit on the weak side for bears and I would might find myself bringing the 629 instead.
    • A lightweight bolt action rifle like a Kimber or Remington 700 in a .260. The .300 mag is a bit much for deer and antilope, so I thought a lighter recoiling gun might be nice for hunting. Plus my other bolt actions are both 26 inch barrels. A 22 inch short action would be pretty nice. On the other hand, If I want short I can always use my AR or my slug gun.
    • H&K USP 40 compact. I can get a great deal on one of these through work. Also, might be a good idea to pick one up before the election. Plus I don’t own an autoloading pistol yet. Not really sure what I would use it for thought since it’s not practical for hunting and the Smith and Wesson PD would probably be more practical for CCW. I know the USP would be more effective, but the smaller and lighter the gun, the more likely I’m going to have it when I need it.
    • Thought about getting a Muzzleloader. Never really been that interested in muzzleloaders, but thought it woud be cool to have an extra few days of deer hunting. Really no reason to pick one up other than because I don’t have one. With all the work that goes into cleaning not really sure how much I would use it. Besides in Wisconsin with a 9 day season plus two 4 day doe seasons I’m not really sure if I could sneak out of work for another one.

    So there it is. I can’t really see a need for another gun, but if I manage to come up with some extra cash, what would be the most practical? What would be the least similar to what I alredy own? The last thing I want to do is spend $1000 on a gun that I never use because I already have something similar.
     
  2. Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow

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    You definitely have a serious mental condition, if you cannot rationalize a new gun - seek help immediately! :eek: :p
     
  3. Hoppy590

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    i gave up on rationalizing. im onto that childish "gimmie" stage.

    i walk into a gun shop, and see new AK receivers or AR lowers, point and say "gimmie!" :p
     
  4. MMCSRET

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    I found that the best way to curb this condition is to have enough cash in my pocket at all times to be able to buy anything that strikes me as I visit the asylums where firearms are housed, or at least lay it away with a healthy down payment. I never look for anything specific anymore, I walk around ready!!! That way when a particular piece jumps out at me I can react properly.
     
  5. EShell

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    Your 10/22 is too heavy for rabbit hunting. I'd suggest getting a carbine style 10/22 immediately to fill this void and share your existing mags/ammo.

    Just an M4 is really no good on it's own, and a nice free floated 20" heavy barreled AR changes everything, gives your a spare lower receiver assembly, just in case, and it will eat from the same mags. You might need to buy some decent ammo to fully enjoy it.

    You 870 could probably use a high comb stock to be at it's best with a scoped slug barrel, but such stocks are a PIA to interchange, not to mention time repetitively wasted in the barrel swapping, and so it's really best to have two 870s. Also, you might be a little light in the HD shotgun department, so a nice 18" shot barreled version is nice to have, but then that disables your bird gun, unless you want to leave the house undefended when you go hunting, or want to swap barrels (!!) as soon as you get back. What if you one single 870 breaks?

    Do you have a pocket pistol?
     
  6. obxflea

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    Get a T/C Encore, awesome muzzleloader, AND you can get barrels for ANY caliber. Just a thought.. I am torn between a 28" .270 barrel and the 20" 460 S&W barrel.
     
  7. Tarvis

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    If you can get a USP cheap through your work, I say do it. Also, a light weight 260 would make a great hike rifle.

    Many would say "always get more," but let me play devils advocate for a moment; remember the quote "beware the man with one gun, for he probably knows how to use it." You don't have one gun, but if you have one good gun for each application you don't exactly need more. On the other hand, you can always think of another application you need a rifle/pistol for ;).
     
  8. f4t9r

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    you need a 1911 in 45 or 38 super.
    It is a law that everyone must have one. Look it up its under f4t9r laws.
     
  9. sam700

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    Don't have a pocket pistol. I was thinking of one of those scandium .357's by Smith and Wesson. I could use the same pistol for both CCW and backpacking then.
     
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    hmm military surplus
     
  11. Jst1mr

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    Fellow Wisconsonite

    Your priorities should be:

    #2: • A lightweight bolt action rifle like a Kimber or Remington 700 in a .260. The .300 mag is a bit much for deer and antilope, so I thought a lighter recoiling gun might be nice for hunting. Plus my other bolt actions are both 26 inch barrels. A 22 inch short action would be pretty nice. On the other hand, If I want short I can always use my AR or my slug gun.
    You're on the right track here, for a #2 - .260 is a great light gun

    #1: • Thought about getting a Muzzleloader. Never really been that interested in muzzleloaders, but thought it woud be cool to have an extra few days of deer hunting. Really no reason to pick one up other than because I don’t have one. With all the work that goes into cleaning not really sure how much I would use it. Besides in Wisconsin with a 9 day season plus two 4 day doe seasons I’m not really sure if I could sneak out of work for another one.
    This is "the gun I never thought I needed, but now would not give up!" Hunting the muzzleloader season in WI is really neat and totally different than the other seasons - they're not as bad as you think for cleaning, and a blast to shoot!
     
  12. rrflyer

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    you're missing a whole segement of the shooting sports.

    You have no gaming equipment. I'd like to see a good quality 1911 or 2011 added to your lineup. That way IDPA and IPSC are open to you. And once you start there youll have plenty of stuff to purchase.
     
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    Because you're afraid that obama will outlaw all guns!
     
  14. sam700

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    Amen to that, so maybe the answer is to get an auto loading pistol while I can. I definitely agree with Tarvis, I don't want to get something that is a duplicate of something I already have. Hate to spend the two weeks before hunting season agonizing over which gun to bring and then doubting my decision before the hunt.

    On the other hand, a Muzzleloader would be about the most different thing from what I already own.
     
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    It's all you need.

    Oh, come on. Rationalizing doesn't have to require lots of real well founded logic or anything, anyway. :scrutiny: All you need is an excuse, and just looking at the election coming up, you have enough right there. No point in making this a hate thread at all - but it's fair to say (citing Clinton as an example) that things might go wrong soon, and you're only trying to stay ahead of the curve. Look no further.:banghead:
     
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    No need to rationalize anything, just one reason required to make that next purchase: "I wanna git it" . :cool:
     
  17. cerberus65

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    I would say buy lots of ammo. The surest way to stumble across a great deal or to have the new gun bug bite you hard is to spend all your available cash. :evil:

    Actually I don't really advocate blowing it all. Sock it away somewhere for when you feel the itch again. Then you'll have the satisfaction of getting something you really do want and won't have to go into hock to get it.

    No sense buying something if you don't feel the need yet. Half the fun of getting a new gun is wanting it so, so bad. :)
     
  18. elmerfudd

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    A year or two ago I gave up on rationalizing myself. Truth is I don't do a lot of big game hunting because my wife does 90% of the cooking around my house and she doesn't like to cook wild game. So most of my hunting can be done with an airgun, a rimfire and a shotgun all of which I have more than one of. A lot of folks like to prepare for SHTF, and I've given it more thought than it probably deserves myself, but honestly, I'm 40 years old, a civilian and I'm not getting any younger. The chances of me fighting off waves of infantry, zombies or tweakers with an AK anytime in the future are pretty slim.

    So, what am I left with? I just like shooting and guns a lot. For me that's enough. Heck, all that rationalizing was kind of silly anyway. Most of us probably don't need any more than 2 or three guns total to adequately deal with any pest control, hunting or defense needs we might face, but since we really like guns and shooting we come up with rationalizations for buying new guns that we don't really need. Once you admit that you don't have any need and you just want them you become a lot freer to pursue shooting for it's own sake.
     
  19. The Deer Hunter

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    Get a GSG5. Its the German .22LR version of the MP5. Never shot one but they are cool for $500.
     
  20. halfbreed808

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    :what:What rationalizing about getting a new gun?:what: WOW!!!
     
  21. Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow

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    Get the lightweight .260 bolt rifle mountain gun first, along with the muzzleloader. This extends your deer season (to the high rut time I might add, during primitive season), and gives you a lightweight, light recoiling, great all-purpose rifle in the .260. Then add a CZ 452 later.
     
  22. sammy

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    I stopped reading after I read this. I would give my left walnut for a CCW here in California. Get a CCW application and fill the sucker out tomorrow. Do it for me because I will never get one here in my godforsaken state.:fire:
     
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    IIRC, WI Muzzleloader season is a little more post-rut than high rut, though it may be the transition period. It runs Dec 1-10 this year.

    I'd get the muzzleloader. Switch one of your time-off periods from the normal gun hunt times to muzzleloader season.


    *edit* I'm also a little lost. Lots of reference to WI, yet also to a CCW permit, which we don't have here. I suppose you could travel a lot and get an out of state CCW(MN, for example, is fairly popular for WI residents to obtain a CCW permit). Course, I may just be confused. Or, you may not actually be in WI, if so, ignore the first part about WI muzzleloader season. :)
     
  24. MT GUNNY

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    One thing I might help with,

    1 If you got the $ go for it.
     
  25. Jst1mr

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    Who needs your stinkin' CCW when your beloved Governor has patted his hip during a speech and said "we don't need concealed carry here - if you want to carry a gun, carry it here"...

    And often times, the "second" rut hits during ML season - when those does that weren't bred the first time come back into heat...
     
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